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Emma Iveli
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Yay! My hatrid for 4kids is a 1/4 gone (
 They still have One Piece, Mew Mew and Doremi!) and I got an early Christams presnt! Who knows this might be the thing that 4kids haters have been waiting for! Yu-Gi-Oh is ending and 4kids lost Pokemon, it's two biggest hits are going bye bye so who knows maybe due to profit concernes they decied to relsse uncuts, it would make sence. I hope that will happen. That or 4kids goes bye bye.
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TakinawaTonfa
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Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh were the'yre only two mega-hit properties which gave them real success. Now, they've given up the liscense to what could easily be considered they're biggest cash cow, Yu-Gi-Oh is loosing popularity and the show is about to end, One Piece is a complete disaster, it dosen't even SEEM like they're trying to advertise they're other properties like Shaman King, Winx Club, Tokyo Mew Mew, etc, and on top of all that, 4kidsTV has some of the (if not then THE) lowest ratings of any Saturday morning cartoon block.
Honestly, how much longer will they last? |
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Isaaru
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Yeah yeah. Pokemon was one thing that 4kids did right. There a lot of happy kids out there who will always remember Pokemon and the wholesomeness it represents (adventure, responibility, friendship, competition, and values). Team Rocket (the only reason I watch) are as classic a duo as Laurel and Hardy thanks to some excellent heartfelt voicework. But I think 4kids will never bother with the "otaku" market and release uncuts. Thier too much animosity and we're not as profitable as the "soccor mom" market to invest boatloads of cash on. After Pokemon, I think will 4kids will keep a low profile until the next big marketing thing comes along. |
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Hi no Neko
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As the 4Kids fangirl in here, I gotta say: Not a good move.
Unless there was some big contract thing that they absolutely couldn't get out of, this was a bad move. Pokemon, despite it's recent fall in populaeity, is still a big money-maker for 4Kids. Granted, Yu-Gi-Oh is still a fairly big property, but unlike Pokemon it didn't have enough popularity in Japan to give it an "unlimited run". Al Kahn, if you can hear me: License something big and give it some exposure. Now. Don't just shove it into your channel, try getting it on a morning block that kids actually watch. Like KidsWB. They've been good to you in the past. |
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gaby85
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Stock falling? Happens all the time after 9/11 nothing surprises me from the global economy.
As 4kids out of Pokemon hands, doesn't make any diference. Why? Do you really think Nintendo will spend thousands of dolars on subbing an series with over 400 episodes alredy? The timing, the recoding, typesetting. Do you imagine all those work hours? We won't see the Porygon episode, Nintendo nor Tv tokyo will allow it to be released. Neither the Earthquake episode(It was baned in Japan) Pokemon raped? Don't make me laugh. 4kids did a good job on it, and the paint edits are really common on anime nowadays. I just worry, that the Pokemon dub might gets delayed because of this change of plans. Nintendo just did this, since Pokemon is becoming a Great cash cow, they want everything for themselves instead of sharin with 4kids |
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Tempest
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If you look at it, that's actually a pretty small drop. |
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YourNeighborTotoro
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I'm not sure if that episode was actually banned... See trivia fact No.1. |
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Animefan16
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I agree. The edits in Pokemon were so minor and I don't consider it butchered. But I don't have a problem with it being released uncut and subbed. While I support uncut redubs of butchered dubs like Yu-gi-oh, I don't think a Pokemon redub is necessary because of the small changes. |
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ChibiGoku
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Actually, what it meant was that early episodes, that aired in America, used the "TV-Tokyo Light Edit" masters, which are still used today in japan. That, and I remember it never airing in the initial run. True, 4Kids may have access to the master for Electric Soldier Porygon, but I believe no vas would want to touch this episode, because of what happened in Japan. So I REALLY doubt it'd be dub. |
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Mohawk52
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shirokiryuu
Posts: 714 Location: Northern California (SF Bay Area) |
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banned episodes can also create consistancy problems,
but at least pokemon is a show for kids and wouldn't have had to be as edited as other series if 4kids makes any more licenses.... i hope it will be a kids series, not some "meant-for-japanese-kids-but-too-much-for-american-parents-and-must-be-butchered" type of series like one piece and yugioh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banned_episodes_of_Pokémon banned pokemon episodes |
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Yashouzoid
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Yes, and small things turn into big things. ... Oh my god, I did NOT just say that... Besides that, it's not as if 4Kids' stock was really good to begin with. I don't think they can afford the hits they've been taking much longer.
I know, that's what I (and probably others) have been saying. Heck, One Piece is already on Toonami, and it's getting good ratings there (second behind Naruto), why not try to take some advantage of that and actually PUSH it? Oh wait, 4Kids? Smart ideas? Lol. |
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Michi
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They also had the Japanese version of the "Meowth's Party" song. I was really shocked to see that included. |
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Shorty22
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I see many people hoping for uncut/subtitled releases of Pokemon in the future due to this. While I wouldn't mind that, I don't see much possiblity in that happening. I definately wouldn't say anything if I were wrong though.
However, the best thing that I can see that could/would be realisticly done is box sets. Clump those whole seasons together. Just looking at the releases is ridiculous. Early ones have 3, then 5, some have 7, and the Orange Islands seem to have 12. At least they started clumping it together in Master Quest and Advanced. |
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Hi no Neko
Posts: 204 Location: Austin, TX |
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Season sets would make Neko very happy. Finding individual, season one DVDs is really hard nowadays, and it's rather frustrating to only get 3 episodes for my work.
As for uncut . . . aside from some paint edits and a few minor "violence" cuts, (Mistly slapping Ash.) there wasn't all that much left out in the first place. And I suppose a subbed version would be okay for people who prefer them, but I've heard the Japanese version, and it's not exactly stellar. ("Nyarth" makes my ears hurt.) All in all, Pokemon is probably the best job 4Kids has done to date . . . which is a bit of why it puzzles me that they're just letting it go like this. Unless there's something I'm not seeing here. |
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