Forum - View topicCN, [AS], and Toonami are butt raping again
|
Goto page 1, 2 Next |
| Author | Message | |||||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
camelot187757
 Posts: 426 Location: The Nacirema Dream (17 and counting Asuka) |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
Why is Cartoon Network and their whole fam screwing with us again???? Is it just me (and I know it isn't) or have thier quality of shows just diminshed over the last year. I mean Duel Masters and Zatch Bell??? Not only do those shows suck some serious explicitve, but they're just crowd grabbers for the kids who don't like Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokémon (respectively). And now we have Dragon Ball Z for the millionth time but oh how de we draw back our ten-year-veteran viewers (like myself)? Show it uncut, like you couldn't have done it back in nine-seven. You can show DBZ for like ten years but we can't even see Kenshin, Batman Beyond, or even a damn Gundam.
Now we have Naruto a great show (but still teeter totters on childish themes and mature anime) that is nothing more for them but a cash-in so they can get back that Dragon-Ball-Z- money [someone wrote a while back about the fear of Naruto trading cards and bookbags everywhere they go] but at least they've kept the violence pretty intact. I mean come on the marathon on New Years was obvious enough that they just want advertising money. They'll probably pull the same crap and show it for the rest of our lifes and then when we're almost dead they'll [Dun DUn DUN DUNNNN fanfare] show it "uncut". But hey here's a CN idea: lets grab a stunning show like IGPX and hype it up for 3 weeks. Then we let it debut at 10 and watch the ratings. We get decent ratings and then we shove it right at the end of the lineup, don't advertise it anymore and pump more Naruto in people's faces. And then we have pretty much the entire point of this post sans zatch bell and duel master: One piece and Bobo-whateva. Some of the worst shows not (even limited animé) that have ever reared their ugly head on the channel. You all wanna complain about how people can't accept anime and stamp them as either PBS children's stuff or just stupid crap; well here' why they do it. The sheer stupidity, retarded-ness and poor quality of those two shows are enough to turn anybody off of anime for the rest of their life. My suggestion is that we make a trade; instead of showing Yuyu Hakusho and .Hack Sign Legend O (which i only found out aired when i set my alarm off at the wrong time one night) and switch the time slots (and make sure you show Hakusho where you left off instead of starting over like you did last time). Then you can drop the lesser crap (Zatch Bell, Duel Matsers), bring back a Gundam and Kenshin, move IGPX between Naruto and Teen Titans,show all the anime uncut (if you can do it with DBZ you can do it forever) and actually have a very impressive lineup. Alas I know it will never happen so I and every one else that feels the same way that i do can mope. However the [AS] situation is even more annoying. It seems that [AS] won't rest until they've shoved The Boondocks in our faces so much that we have to kill ourselves just to get away from it. As much as I like the show, if they took it off the Saturday Lineup I wouldn't care. And worse off they buck the coveted 11:00 spot from FM Alchemist and push it back an hour just so we can "enjoy" the only show that gave them millions. What's worse? They shove Stroker and Hoop in our faces and the show isn't even all that funny, at least not funny enough to make me forget Inuyasha or anyone, otaku or not, forget about Samurai Champloo which has been scattered to Tuesdays and Wednesdays respectively at 12:30 for those who are suffering withdrawal. Then I heard that they had re-added Cowboy Bebop (again) and at first i was happy. Then I remembered all of the other shows that they have in some vault (Gundam, Hakusho, Blue Gender just to name a few) that they could have aired and I feel like driving to Georgia to Pimp Slap someone at Williams Street. But they don't stop there oh no. Now we must bring back FLCL by far one of the most retarded (kinda-good-retarded, not the retarded you decribe Booboo and One Piece) animes i have ever seen; for some reason a hell of a lot of girls like it go fig. I mean did [AS] lose their copies of Outlaw Star or something?? AT least they managed to grab a 10 year dub of NGE and ingnore the Plat. Vers. and show a different episode on thursdays and Saturdays. It seems that they want their Otakus to watch everyday of the week by showing a new episode of a different show during the week, and then make the rest of their money on Sundays. I just wish that CN and [AS] could get thier act together and stop jerking around anime watchers. By the way who the Hell approved 12oz Mouse and Squidbillies?? I almost forgot that they killed our Saturday a few weeks back with a rerun Boondocks (suprise), a rerun Stroker and Hoop (God...) and then a f*ckin marathon of 12oz Mouse (i needed some syanide that day). |
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
LordShishio
 Posts: 150 |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
To tell you the truth I'd be jumping for joy if the entire 24-hour block was nothing but Naruto.. except.. the DUB IS HORRIBLE! Yes the original had some immature themes, but above all Naruto is the closest thing you'll ever get to a serious story about 12-year old ninjas, this isn't so in the dub.
WHY DOES NARUTO SOUND LIKE ASH FROM POKEMON??? Not only this but like you said, Samurai Champloo and others that are actually watchable get horrible timeslots, and WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO MISSED OUTLAW STAR THE ONE TIME YOU PLAYED IT? God help us if CN gets the rights to Bleach. |
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
Key
Moderator
 Posts: 18178 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
I was going to entirely ignore the ranting on this thread until I saw this patently uninformed comment. Outlaw Star played almost continuously for a period of a couple of years on CN. The series was aired in its entirely (well, except for one especially risque episode that was skipped) at least three times, maybe more. As for the rest? Remember that it's market forces which determine CN's schedule more than anything else. Anime airs in the time slots it does because CN's original programming generally does much better ratings in prime time. DBZ has been a consistent ratings horse for years for them, which is why they still play it. Same with most of the other titles which have been mentioned here. And talk to anyone who's been watching CN for several years now and they'll tell you that CN has seen its best anime offerings yet this past year or two. They've done good by anime fans lately, so why trash-talk them? |
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
emory
Posts: 615 |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
Did you just trash FLCL?
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
Ataru
 Posts: 2306 Location: Missouri (Strikeman) |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
I bet you were spitting at the screen the whole time.
 Now that they do have the rights, they can release DVDs and put on TV uncut. As for Kenshin, low ratings, Batman Beyond, low ratings, and Gundam, well you know where this is going.
Oh the horror! Yeah, they did a ton of stuff they unheard for CN, but that's becasue they followed the book for the that time spot.
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
Gauss
 Posts: 519 Location: Finland |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
Not just that, he implied only the fairer sex likes FLCL. 
From the other shows he disses I guess he's no fan of zany comedies. Too girly for his tastes perhaps? |
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
Steventheeunuch
|
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
THis thread, aswell as yourself, is completely and totally retarded.
|
||||||||||||||||||||
Craeyst Raygal
 Posts: 1383 Location: In the garage, beneath a 1970 MGB GT. |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
Here's the list of people Cartoon Network has to answer to.
#1 - Media Conglomerate Stockholders #2 - Media Conglomerate Executives #3 - Advertisers #4 - FCC #5 - Political Special Interest Groups #6 - Programming Distributors and on down the list of people who decide what CN can air and people who pay CN so that they can air material until....... #947 - Fans who bitch entirely too much about the quality of anime on Cartoon Network. |
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
camelot187757
Posts: 426 Location: The Nacirema Dream (17 and counting Asuka) |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
yea i had to rant sue me
I can't feel it. As far as zany comedies I can't get enough of Love Hina manga or animé so to each his own but don't hate on mine.
Because they keep screwing around. CN and [AS] are the only places to watch anime on TV (unless you have G4 (who don't really give a flying 747 f*ck about anime) or the mythological anime channel which people claim exist but i aint seen it). Some of us don't wanna f*ck over companies by bootleggin and at the same time don't have $27 to spend at Suncoast for 3 episodes of Outlaw Star. And by the way Steven the Lunch or whatever it is you call yourself im not one of those dudes who get on the boards and try to start fake beef with other people so all that talking and typing you do aint impressin me
and apparently nobody else |
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
Villhelmya
 Posts: 66 Location: London, England |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
You guys shold stop bitchin' youve got it good in whatever country you come from, in old england the only anime we've had until about 2 weeks ago was one peice (good but re-run more times than the freiza saga) and pokemon (watched most of them, but they feel the need to replay the entire series atleast twice a day).
Now, thank god, rapture tv (sky: 288) have brought decent anime to our world with wolfs rain and full metal alchemist, once a week. However thy muck it up alot, this week they played the same episode of fullmetal alchmist (which had aired earlyer on that week) when they were ment to play wolfs rain. I would love to see the shows you complain about having. |
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
camelot187757
Posts: 426 Location: The Nacirema Dream (17 and counting Asuka) |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
Yea I can understand that. We do have it better than most but really Villhelmya you wouldn't want to see some of the stuff we have. If you ever saw an episode of Booboo-whatever you'd gauge your eyes out and damm all animé to hell.
Besides you guys have porn running 24 hours a day in London and im sure there's a good anime substitute on That was a joke by the way and yes I've lived in London |
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
Villhelmya
Posts: 66 Location: London, England |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
lol , and no i haven't seen boboobobobobo or whatever, but from the pictures iv'e seen i think CN foolishness has saved a nation from sever uncomfortableness and posibly death
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
Tetsujin
Posts: 216 |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
I get home after prime time, so I can't comment on Toonami and the rest of the CN schedule.
As for Adult Swim, the network has been acquiring anime series at a faster rate. If repeats of the usual series get aired, it's because in the near future new fare will air-- either series or feature-length movies. I wasn't keen on seeing the 12:30am time slot serve as a revolving door for series with new episodes, and seeing FLCL are at that time on Monday threw me for a loop. After Episode 6 airs, FLCL will get repeated while new episodes of InuYasha, Samurai Champloo, and Neon Genesis Evangelion will air. Then again, Lupin the 3rd came back from the dead to air at 1:30am. I'm not keen on Lupin the 3rd, but if it was good enough to air over 150 episodes in its initial run then Adult Swim must be banking on some sort of pay dirt. Adult Swim will put more of its resources into its native programming than it will to anything it has to acquire-- that's just how it is. Of the programming it has to acquire, more of its resources will go to American fare such as Family Guy and Futurama. So it looks as if anime is in 3rd place on the list of priorities. Even so, though, I'm not seeing anime disappear from Adult Swim, and I'm confident that more titles will be brought to us as fast as Adult Swim could handle it. Of course, if Adult Swim could be spun off to have its own channel-- not just be a virtual television network for ratings purposes-- then this sort of Adult Swim could air who knows how many good anime series. Airing the Perfect Hair Forever and 12 Oz. Mouse marathons at the end of 2005 threw off the encore airings of NGE. I know Adult Swim wanted to maximize ratings for its Sunday night programs, but these two series are just plain stupid. Although I don't like the animation and drawing style of Squidbillies, I actually liked this series; it's not as good as Aqua Teen Hunger Force, but that's OK. As for Stroker and Hoop, I thought this series had potential-- for an Adult Swim series, plenty or effort and resources went into making it. (Thumbs up for Stroker and Hoop, mixed thumbs for Squidbillies, thumbs down for both 12 Oz. Mouse and that anime rip-off Perfect Hair Forever.) Adult Swim could surprise us by airing some more movies (even Lupin the 3rd: The Castle at Cagliostro as well as things such as The Animatrix). If Big O is billed as "an Adult Swim action original," then where is the next such series? If series such as Blue Gender got edited beyond recognition initially, why not air a re-edited version which makes sense? (I could be wrong on Blue Gender, but there is precedent with NGE.) If it wasn't for Adult Swim, I don't know where I could find anime to watch with a budget of nothing and only dial-up access. While I'm not crazy about the seemingly haphazard changes Adult Swim makes to its programming schedule, at least now I can watch Cowboy Bebop from start to finish for the first time. |
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
Animekid08.
 Posts: 81 |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
|
FLCL is not just a zany comedy. The coolest and most mature part of it is making sense of it, which is actually possible.
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
Key
Moderator
Posts: 18178 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
|
|||||||||||||||||||
So Encore Action Channel (which anyone who has satellite or digital cable has access to) doesn't count? They air anime twice a week on a regular schedule and sometimes air anime at other times. Outlaw Star aired plenty on CN in its time, but its time has passed. Sorry you missed it, guess you'll just have to get the Complete Collection boxed set - which, incidentally, can be found in legitimate form for less than $40 if you do a couple of minutes of looking around online, so don't exaggerate. (I recommend checking the Outlaw Star entry in the Encyclopedia first.) |
||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||
 |
All times are GMT - 5 Hours |
|
|
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group