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That's why I prefer to use the term "killing," because people can disagree whether it was murder or justice, justified or unjustified. One thing we can agree on however is that whether done by a criminal, the law, or in war, the person was killed. This will help us remember what is happening here, even if we regard it as necessary.

The quickest method of all in capital punishment is that used in China, where most of our anime collectibles are made—a bullet in the head. It's funny that we would find this somehow a savage or distasteful practice, preferring our sanitized methods of ending a life as morally superior. China isn't much on justice as democratic nations understand the term, but, again, they face up to what they do.

—C.

"Miss Sakaki is big but quiet."
—Chiyo-chan

You're in support of killing people for the sake of revenge, yet indicate that sympathy/compassion are traits that make you surprised we haven't destroyed civilization with nuclear weapons yet? What? Really, what? I don't understand that at all. If anything, nuclear weapons are fired by people who are able to justify the killing of another human to themselves via legal or political semantics, not us "bleeding hearts" who are opposed to violence.

It is acknowledged that there are individuals who for whatever reason commit crimes that challenge the sensibilities of any sane person. To execute such a person is to continue the horror that that individual has started. In this city we have a small patch of green where public hangings used to occur. It is an interesting place but I would not say that it is an enjoyable one. It is a chilling place even when the sun is out in the midst of summer. If this feeling is understood then I think perhaps someone would most likely be considered sane. The alternative to execution is to lock up the individual for life with no chance of parole. There is no mistaking how the taking away of a lifetime of freedom impacts an individual. In my experience many people who live in poverty or are disabled may be able to relate to what it is to live a life with restrictions. Multiply this by infinity and perhaps one would understand what it is to come to the realization that every time one wakes they will see the same windowless walls. Is this not an acceptable definition of hell? The individual in question has been diagnosed as someone with a severe personality disorder. I find it disquieting that an obviously impaired person is being put to death. Many countries, my own included, seem to prefer to not want to deal with the mentally disabled or prefer to support them only in minimal ways. I will say that my own psychiatrist has experienced prejudice because of her profession. Perhaps this is how things begin to get out of hand. The cost of locking up such an individual is something that as a society we should endure. Being civilized is not easy and it is not cheap. Being good is not easy either but these are things that are required of us if we are to consider ourselves civilized. I feel the need to say something about death. I have witnessed one death and while it was as peaceful a one as I could conceive of, the truth is I have no idea what was happening in the mind of my friend. I don't think there is any "good" death or any that is pleasurable. This is a subjective view but we will become experts on the subject at some point. There are things that we as a civilized society should not do. Executing people is one of them.

lain

That was the most horrible thing I had ever heard...A sexual fetish of dead corpses? Did he like..have sex with the dead corpses? That's just plain wrong..

How much is the price for a human being? I want to buy a few.

I will be the first to admit that taxpayers should not be forced into the burden of supporting criminals. However, this is a problem with a.) the definition of crimes, and the fact that many people are put in prison for things they should not be incarcerated for (i.e - non-violent crimes such as theft, or "crimes" that aren't really crimes at all such as drug use), and b.) the ineptly run prison system. There is no getting around the problem that "prisons are expensive to run, and a lot of money is required to support convicts on death row" without a total restructuring of the system, involving releasing prisoners who show no indication that they're going to harm someone else (this is actually the vast majority of prisoners, 70+% are there for drug possession). Whether or not this will happen anytime soon is anyone's guess (I'd say no, unfortunately).

HOWEVER...

Just because we've gotten ourselves caught up in a system that's so eager to strip people of their basic freedoms (such as the right to put whatever substance you want into your own body) does not make it okay to kill people. Context does not change morality. You can't say that it's okay to kill someone if changable circumstances make it expensive to keep them alive, you simply have to fight to change those unfair circumstances. Think about it; do you really want to live in a society whose fear has made it so that killing people has become more "practical" than attempting to rehabilitate them???

I think pretty much everyone here is forgetting the families of the murdered children. In our attempt to justify our opinions, money, justice, whatnot, we seem to have put the pain and anguish that these underserving people have had shoved upon them. I don't pretend to say that I can speak for them, but I can tell you that I would have an immense sense of closure if my children's murderer was put to death, I don't have kids this is hypothetical, its done and over. If he was behind bars for life it would be really hard to go through the day knowing that someone who killed my kids is still living.

While some people may see it as revenge, the point of the death penalty is to bring about an equal punishment befitting the crime. You can cry inhumanity, revenge, and all the other terms you want, but in the end the law must be upheld. If the law says death for death, then so be it. You don't' like it? Go lobby or vote in someone who will support your view.

I think that an except from this article can say my feelings about justice and the death pentalty better than I can

It's a tricky thing, the death penalty... Both sides of the fence are posing very rational arguments and this is such a delicate issue that it's sometimes hard to decide what is really for the best.

However, I have the perfect solution. Here's what we do. We collect all the mass murderers, rapists, and child molesters, and stick them on a deserted island somewhere in the South Pacific (or any other tropical climate with hot weather), miles and miles from civilization, where they are forced to forage for food and shelter or drop dead from exposure--all alone, of course, except for hidden cameras. The cameras document the murderers' fight for survival, the footage is edited with upbeat pop music, narration and "personal interviews," and voila! We have the next hit reality show.

Genius!! I'll get the Nobel Prize for this one.

so say they let this scumbag live. What message will that give other potential child killers?

"Kill little girls! Have fun tormenting their families! When it's all over the taxpayers will pay for your expenses until you die of natural causes!"

That's messed up. What's more messed up is that the victim's parents, obviously taxpayers, will also have to pay for this freak. haven't these families paid enough already!?

I say kill him.

Last edited by Sethimothy on Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:51 pm; edited 1 time in total

Look, our senses of justice also differ. What you perceive as just isn't just the law and crimilar justice stuff, but also depends a lot on morals, and morals are relative. Just because the law says this is the way it should be doesn't automatically make it right. The morals I live by include that killing is wrong under any circumstance and yours says that it's ok for punishment. It all boils down to relativism, and debating that isn't going to go anywhere.
So I can disagree with the law, but, tell me, what am I going to change in Japan, being an American citizen? Nothing. I can vote in America, but if the candidate I support doesn't make it, I can't change that, either. Thus I think it's valid to complain.

What good does it really do the family past some form of revenge? I mean, I highly doubt that they'll be tossing and turning in their beds each night because they fear he'll escape from prison, so the only good his death would do is to have them satisfied that he's dead because he killed their kid. That's "he killed my child so I won't rest until he's dead." That's revenge. "To inflict punishment in return for (injury or insult)." (Quoted from dictionary.com)

I'm also not looking at the economy while saying this. I understand that keeping them all in prisons is a problem, but I just don't think the right solution is killing them. I don't have a solution! I'm sorry!

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