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Rainaru



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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:37 pm Reply with quote
I know this might be a late reply, but I think a yaoi section would be a worthy add-on.
I don't think it would fit into erotica, and there are a lot of different genres it can fit into.
It might also be nice not to mislead any potential anime viewers when they're searching for new anime to watch.
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dougritchey13



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:32 pm Reply with quote
Im new to this board, someone refered me to this thread becuz i asked for some recs. That just doesnt make sense to me at all that you wouldnt allow it. Why not make a forum specificilly for recomendations. Im just wondering why you dont. I understand its your rule and i have no problem following it. But i was just wondering if you had a better reason to outlaw them besides your just tired of it. Some people don't trust what online reveiws say from one person and they want to hear it from the real fans that are just like them. Not 1 single person. It just seems a little childish to me i guess. If i was to ask you if you knew of a good series because i wanted a new one to watch. And you replied with some series. I would most certainly say thank you. I understand some people dont say thanks but if that agrrivates you to the point were you outlathen thats just childish on your part. No offense intended, I just wanted a different reason why theyre not aloud, if there is one.
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abunai
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:59 pm Reply with quote
We prohibit recommendation threads because they contribute nothing to the forum. Usually, they start with someone (someone new to the forum, as a rule) posting a list of anime that they like, and asking for more of the same. This produces a series of recommendations that are usually further lists, with no content or discussion.

I'm not saying that a recommendation thread can't produce good discussion -- I'm saying that it generally doesn't. The only person who gets anything out of the thread is the original poster, and even then, he doesn't get what he really needs, namely eye-opening new stuff, instead of more of the same.

Most recommendation threads are therefore useless, and that is why we don't want them.

If you do need recommendations, there are other sites that specialise in them. Personally, I like Anime Planet, because it is so well-crafted. That site is nicely complementary to ANN, and you might find it more useful to take your search for recommendations there.

In the meantime, feel free to stick around and contribute your input in some of the intelligent discussions about anime that we have here.

- abunai
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Sword Magess



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:29 pm Reply with quote
The rule isn't quite as restrictive as one might think, as it is still possible to make a recommendation thread without violating the rule in this topic. The method is as follows:

1. Identify one or more related themes in a subset of anime you have watched and liked, the subset possibly being equal to the whole set.

2. Examine how each title treats the theme or themes and either comes to a uniform way of treatment or a series of contrasts on how each title in the subset treats the theme.

3. Generate a discussion topic on the theme or set of related themes, starting with your analysis of how the titles in your subset treated them.

The topic is, at a glance, a discussion topic related to a theme or set of related themes used in anime. Suppose the analysis is reasonably detailed, then the topic passes on subject matter and depth of the initial post. Because each title named in the topic should contain the theme or themes of the opening post to stay on topic, each reply should then be a recommendation reply, likely containing more details as to why the title is recommended than one would receive with a traditional recommendation topic.

Some examples of topics that might act as recommendation topics of this kind:
Most fluid fight scenes?
Best blending of 2D and 3D graphics
Moe hate in its various forms. (Keep it civil please)
Fan service anime only?
Feminist anime

As can be seen from reading the above examples, the chosen themes and the opening post is written have a great effect on the vitality of the topic. A well chosen theme set and a good opening post can net a user a wealth of recommendations, often with one or more moderators contributing a significant fraction of those.
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dougritchey13



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:55 am Reply with quote
I understand what you are saying, But it still isnt enough for me that if i called the shots that I would outlaw it. Forums were started as a way for people to express their selve s and excercise the freedom of speach. Now i understand you wouldnt want people to come on here and dicuss Kevin Costner movies, But i Think thats a little far.

Me being New I will respect that rule and only make threads that are deemed fit( I apoligize for not reading the rules in the first place) But still I would like to see that rule revoked. If a thread is neccessarily for recs then anyone who felt they werent worth reading wouldnt have to read them. And you say that you dont get anything out of them but some people like helping others find anime.

I understand they could get annoying because of animes ever growing pop. But I think whoever made it should consider revising it and maybe setting rules similar to the ones you have set but just a little looser. Thanks for the Anime planet info.

I checked out anime planet, that may be something you get into in your moms basement but not me. I hardly can understand how something like that is aloud but recs arent. wow, what professionals.
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abunai
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:29 am Reply with quote
dougritchey13 wrote:
I understand what you are saying, But it still isnt enough for me that if i called the shots that I would outlaw it. Forums were started as a way for people to express their selve s and excercise the freedom of speach. Now i understand you wouldnt want people to come on here and dicuss Kevin Costner movies, But i Think thats a little far.

Opinions are like arseholes -- everyone's got one. You are free to have yours, of course. May it bring you much joy.

dougritchey13 wrote:
Me being New I will respect that rule and only make threads that are deemed fit( I apoligize for not reading the rules in the first place) But still I would like to see that rule revoked. If a thread is neccessarily for recs then anyone who felt they werent worth reading wouldnt have to read them. And you say that you don't get anything out of them but some people like helping others find anime.

Read the posts again. The reasoning for banning recommendation threads have been clearly stated: they contribute too little actual content, and too much noise.

dougritchey13 wrote:
I understand they could get annoying because of animes ever growing pop. But I think whoever made it should consider revising it and maybe setting rules similar to the ones you have set but just a little looser. Thanks for the Anime planet info.

I checked out anime planet, that may be something you get into in your moms basement but not me. I hardly can understand how something like that is aloud but recs arent. wow, what professionals.

My "moms basement"? Kid, I'm probably in your father's generation. Now, doesn't it strike you as a bit stupid to go out of your way to insult someone who has treated you politely and who is a moderator of this site? No? Apparently not.

So, here's the bottom line spelled out for you in words of as few syllables as possible:

Stick to the rules. Behave politely. Post intelligently.

No more, and no less.

- abunai
And for God's sake, learn to spell.
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Key
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:01 am Reply with quote
dougritchey13 wrote:
Some people don't trust what online reveiws say from one person and they want to hear it from the real fans that are just like them. Not 1 single person.


Um, most of us reviewers (I'm one of them for this site) are "real fans" just like you or we wouldn't be doing this. Given that, how is the recommendation of one single random person in a forum better than a recommendation in a formal review?
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dougritchey13



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:55 pm Reply with quote
What do you mean, The site you gave me was porn, Why dont you check out www.animeplanet.com. I didn't know til later that you were probably trying to give me anime-planet.com. If you dont understand why I was upset and insulted you then go to that site and see for your self. I thought you were being a smart ass.anime-planet and Anime Planet are alot different. I really dont care that your a Mod and I specifically said I would follow the rule but that doesnty mean I shouldnt be able to express my discomfort towards the rule. Also I didn't know the reveiws were from different people, I figured one guy or a group of guys or girls did them. Also I bought tactics and from what one of your reveiws said and didn't like it so that is why I figured someone with the same kind of taste as me could help. Also abunai, I do what to say sorry I had no right to clown you like that. I hope that you will see why I did it if you visit anime planet. As you can see in my post before the one insulting you I said thanks for helping me before I checked it. As you know alot of people play jokes that are cruel and dumb, I figured that was what you were trying to do. Only when I checked anime-planet did i see the real site you refered.

Key wrote:
Um, most of us reviewers (I'm one of them for this site) are "real fans" just like you or we wouldn't be doing this. Given that, how is the recommendation of one single random person in a forum better than a recommendation in a formal review?

I've read your reveiws, I dont like alot of the anime that other people do. I was looking for someone that dot into the same kinds as me. I imagine that someone who liked all anime could go to your reveiws and be helped but I've tried that and it didn't help me. I wasnt trying to turn this into an arguement. I didn't want to insult anyone a mod or just a poster.

[EDIT: Learn how to properly quote so you can reply to multiple posts as opposed to posting consecutively and not even quoting. -TK]
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abunai
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:58 pm Reply with quote
dougritchey13 wrote:
What do you mean, The site you gave me was porn, Why don't you check out www.animeplanet.com. I didn't know til later that you were probably trying to give me anime-planet.com. If you don't understand why I was upset and insulted you then go to that site and see for your self. I thought you were being a smart ass.anime-planet and Anime Planet are alot different.

Here's the thing: If you'd looked at my post, you would have seen that I didn't give a URL, just named Anime Planet (largely because I didn't think it was necessary).

You made the assumption that the site URL was animeplanet.com, instead of doing the sensible thing and googling it (where you would have found the correct site linked at the very top). Even when you did go to the wrong URL, a moment of thought would have told you that you'd probably not reached the intended site.

Instead, you chose to assume that I'd deliberately set out to make a fool of you, and decided that the appropriate response would be to insult me. I would say that this speaks volumes about your personality, not mine.

- abunai
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dougritchey13



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:51 am Reply with quote
Your the one that gave me anime planet instead of anime-planet. Instead of apologizes like you should have you insult me. If I told you to go to Best Buy would you google it.I dont care if your a Mod or not. You were in the wrong. Usaully in a forum when someone posts a source they usaully give the url. Why am Is my personality in question becuz I thought you may have pulled a disgusting joke. For you to insult me after you were in the wrong speaks more for your character then my personality. Im done talking to you if you cant admit that you messed up. Considering you probably knew that because of people making the same mistake. Sure I made a mistake by assuming that you sent me there on purpose but you still sent me there. I would have apologized exspecially if I was representing ANN.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:57 am Reply with quote
Protip #1: A Moderator does not represent ANN, they merely enforce the rules and keep the peace.

Protip #2: Don't blame someone else for you typing in the incorrect URL. What harm was actually done anyway?

Protip #3: Drop this whole thing before you get a temporary ban. Just walk away.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:05 am Reply with quote
dougritchey13 wrote:
Your the one that gave me anime planet instead of anime-planet. Instead of apologizes like you should have you insult me.

Maybe if you had explained that first, instead of digging out the "mom's basement" comment, you'd have ground to make that argument. You assumed the misdirect was done with ill intent, when it was instead a misunderstanding. Plenty of people know of the Anime Planet website (the non-porn one), but, unless they had made the same mistake you did, would probably be oblivious to the more explicit one. Why you would make an assumption that an otherwise courteous post would direct you to a porn site? It's pretty common for those to take names similar existing companies or sites in order to lure in less than fully informed visitors, so the logical assumption would have been to search for the site.
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dougritchey13



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:33 pm Reply with quote
You pretty much both said what I did. I said sorry for the mis understanding. But dont you think anyone would have said sorry about that I should have been more specific. I dont know if you two think its beyond people to do something like that or what. If you scroll up you can see i said sorry. Im done with as for a ban, I dont think ill loss that much sleep. Yeah i was in the wrong for saying the whole moms basement thing. But he insulted me much more then i did him. Spelling it out in as few syallbles as possible, please guy let me go grab my Masters off the wall and continue. Maybe I should be scared to get banned but to me its not that impor6tant. The only thing this site ever did for me is help me find anime planet, the none porn one.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:36 pm Reply with quote
What about suggestion categories by age range like shonen, shojo, and seinen sections? That seems to be a serious divider for anime and manga.
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sdsichero
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:50 pm Reply with quote
abunai wrote:
dougritchey13 wrote:
What do you mean, The site you gave me was porn, Why don't you check out www.animeplanet.com. I didn't know til later that you were probably trying to give me anime-planet.com. If you don't understand why I was upset and insulted you then go to that site and see for your self. I thought you were being a smart ass.anime-planet and Anime Planet are alot different.

Here's the thing: If you'd looked at my post, you would have seen that I didn't give a URL, just named Anime Planet (largely because I didn't think it was necessary).


I agree that you did not give a url, but it was a big assumption that folks would know anime planet (I didn't). Though that was no reason for him to accuse you. I will check on that site later so glad this came up.

Any thoughts on a section on the encyclopedia that might have something similar to Amazon recommendations (those who liked this have liked...)? Or do you feel the genre is enough?
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