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shadow_guyver
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I wouldn't think there would be many volunteers. Who wants to be convicted of any crime, just to change the law. I'm just saying it's an effective way of changing law in the US.
Really, it's more about people coming in on a case after someones been charged in order to affect change, rather than intentionally commiting a crime in order to change the law. |
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PandaMan
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Does ANN have anyone they can contact at the FBI or the DOJ? I would like to hear from them(offical word) what they're going after when it comes to lolicon, and what their stance is on normal anime. I'm usually not a alarmist, but when you have a blanket statement like the one used in the press release, one has to wonder.
I would like to see maybe a offical repsonse due to a ANN staffer contacting someone, or something that will calm the nerves of eager anime fans(and perhaps myself). While I do realize that we aren't facing a total ban on anime, I still have a lingering feeling that something is on the horizon. |
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jgreen
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You don't have to worry about anime in general getting the book thrown at it because of this law. Ranma 1/2, for example, is packed with teenage nudity, true, but there is no sex whatsoever. It doesn't appeal to prurient interests, it isn't obscene by normal community standards, and it has serious artistic value.
Anime isn't what's on trial here, it's child pornography. And while there is a remote possibility that the filthiest of lolicon books may get busted, anime at large is safe and always will be. |
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GATSU
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Wow, must have hit a couple of nerves with my bold commentary.
miwa:
Well not you personally.
Let's see. Soldiers who rape, beat, and kill innocent children suspected of being terrorists are discharged of their crimes. A guy who downloads lolicon gets twenty years. Double standards? I think so.
Why? Because it forces you to question who are the real monsters?
Jerry Lee Lewis married a pre-teen, while Elvis dated one. No one calls them deranged. People don't stop reading Edgar Allen Poe because he married a thirteen year old. Hell, I hate Polanski, and they gave him an Oscar. And they just [url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060321/ts_alt_afp/usjusticeteacheryouth_060321224302] acquitted[/url] that cradle-robbing floozy from Florida. So again, who's really crazy? Society or the individual?
Well neither is illiteracy, and the kind of poverty which forces kids to prostitute themselves. (Or just forces them to become spokespersons for white supremacists in the case of Prussian Blue...) But we don't actually target those problems. We just go after people who might be predators, and we ignore the environment which allow them to be exploited in the first place. "Remember, kids, don't talk to strangers. But other than that, you're on your own."
Straight Catholic priests seem to have children all the time...But for some reason, society thinks it's gay people who will corrupt them.
True. We can't all be respectable members of society like Scott Peterson.
Guess you never heard of George Washington and James Madison. Well ok, they had slaves, but still, they were progressive for their time... |
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MiwaSatoshi
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You amuse me, GATSU. Bold commentary, huh. Your arguments continue to be comprised mostly of items irrelevant to the situation at hand.
If you think soldiers who rape and kill innocent children simply "get off", then I assume you've never heard of Frank Ronghi. That being said, the US military is a bit too protectionist when it comes to soldiers who commit crimes, but that hardly means we should be more lenient to civilians as a result. If there is a double standard, then fix the problem rather than watering down the consequence. Scott Peterson? Convicted for a crime that had nothing to do with lolicon. To try to divert attention from one crime by citing another is ridiculous. Yes, there are greater crimes out there, but that doesn't mean Whorley is in the right for what he did, or that crimes like these shouldn't be prosecuted. "Straight Catholic priests" -- Catholic priests are supposed to be celibate, so why is priest sexuality even a subject of debate? Unless the Catholic Church decides to allow clergy to resume sexual relations, it's irrelevant whether priests are straight, gay, or otherwise, isn't it. Also, George Washington and James Madison lived in the 18th and 19th centuries (no longer a good barometer no matter how you look at it) -- considering Virginia's more recent track record in dealing with topics such as gay rights, I wouldn't call them exactly "liberal" or "progressive". Jerry Lee Lewis is a terrible example -- while the music he made persists, his popularity died after his marriage to his cousin. As for Roman Polanski, last I checked, he was still leery of being in any country willing to extradite him for that crime -- he's persona non grata in the US. And do I even have to mention Gary Glitter? Again, you point to "double standards" and -- but apart from the military / civilian dichotomy -- there is a point on the spectrum between black and white that someone's actions are determined to be enough to merit removal from society. Just because Whorley is not as "far out" on the spectrum as Tsutomu Miyazaki or Scott Peterson or John Wayne Gacy doesn't mean he *isn't* a monster or that he doesn't deserve to go to jail. That sort of logic is preposterous, and taken to its logical extreme, would imply that anyone who isn't guilty of genocide should be ignored. And I really, really hope that isn't your point, GATSU, because if it were, I'd have to laugh at you. |
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GATSU
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A life sentence for rape and murder. How "noble". If he was black and lived in Texas, it'd be the chair for him.
Yes. The rules of law and jurisprudence have no place in war-time. Anyone suspected of being a terrorist will be tried outside of the United States and be promptly executed by a firing squad.
It's the same crime committed by Tsutomu Miyazaki. But speaking of T. Miyazaki, why is it wrong for him to rape Japanese children, but it's acceptable for the Japanese to deny rape of Korean and Chinese women and children during the war?
Only if it's homosexuality, it seems. Then they're thrown out. If they rape children, but they're straight, then the Church just buys off the family.
Not to the Church, apparently.
An executive order signed by Gov. Tim Kaine that bars discrimination against gays in state hiring is unconstitutional Attorney General Bob McDonnell said Friday in a written legal opinion.Kaine signed the order on his first day in office last month using the same language as former Gov. Mark Warner used in a similar order on January 12th, just two days before he left office.
From Wikipedia: "Lewis has never stopped touring, and fans who have seen him perform say he can still deliver unique concerts that are unpredictable, exciting, and personal. In February of 2005, he was given a Lifetime Achievement Award by the Recording Academy (which also grants the Grammy Awards.) At the presentation, it was announced that a new album would be made with a line-up including Eric Clapton, B. B. King, Bruce Springsteen, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. The album, entitled The Pilgrim, is set for the second quarter of 2006...A younger Lewis, portrayed by Waylon Payne, was a character in the highly praised and Academy Award nominated movie Walk the Line, a biopic of Johnny Cash."
Perhaps, but even his victim forgave him.
Again from wiki: "On March 3, 2006 Gary Glitter was sentenced to three years' imprisonment after being found guilty of obscene acts with two young girls. It is possible that he will be eligible for release after serving one-third of his prison term, or one year. That would include the four months he spent in jail from November 2005 to March 2006. Glitter was also ordered to be deported after serving his sentence and to pay 5m Vietnamese dong (US$315) to his victims' families..." Meanwhile... Vietnamese plaintiffs have condemned a US court's decision to dismiss their legal action against manufacturers of Agent Orange during the Vietnam War..."There is no basis for any of the claims of plaintiffs under the domestic law of any nation or state or under any form of international law. The case is dismissed," said US District Judge Jack B Weinstein....The plaintiffs argued that the chemical caused birth defects, miscarriages and cancer. A culture of life, indeed.
But it's really about who draws and crosses the line, not the line being crossed.
I'll admit-after seeing his photo in wiki-that he's an ugly bastard, but, to my knowledge, he didn't kill or threaten anyone, so I don't understand why he's being punished or why he deserves to be punished.
No, I'm just against the idea of being tried and convicted for thought crimes. |
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GATSU
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The deputy press secretary for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security was arrested Tuesday for using the Internet to seduce what he thought was a teenage girl, authorities said...Brian J. Doyle, 55, was arrested at his residence in Maryland on charges of use of a computer to seduce a child and transmission of harmful material to a minor. The charges were issued out of Polk County, Fla....
But knowing how well Shrub handled Mike Brown, he'll probably be pardoned. 
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GATSU
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And if that wasn't enough...
The man who headed the Immigration and Customs Enforcement office in Tampa has pleaded no contest to charges he exposed himself to a girl in a mall food court and ran away from security guards.Frank Figueroa, 49, originally said he was not guilty. His trial was expected to begin tomorrow. Figueroa, once one of Florida’s highest-ranking federal law enforcement officers and the former head of a national program formed to target child sex predators, was arrested Oct. 25 at The Mall at Millenia in Orlando....Rachel Wright, the 16-year-old who reported the incident, said Figueroa pulled up a leg of his shorts, exposed himself and masturbated for about 10 minutes. |
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SnowfairyX
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In what way are those news articles related to the topic?
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Tempest
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They aren't.
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