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Gusty



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:46 am Reply with quote
Wow, what a spit in the face to all the entrants that worked so hard on original works. :/
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Walkabout



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:05 am Reply with quote
Gusty wrote:
Wow, what a spit in the face to all the entrants that worked so hard on original works. :/


This coming not so long after the Tenjho Tenge plagiarism...very sad...
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midori kou



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:28 am Reply with quote
Wow, whoever is Hendra Wahjudi... They fail at being original.
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Annisa Sedai



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:54 am Reply with quote
That's not even cool. Mad Why do people do that? I mean seriously... You're in a contest for YOUR work, not someone else's.
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Talon87



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:11 pm Reply with quote
It's painfully obvious when we see the side-by-side comparisons, but I think that whoever caught this has a very sharp eye and extensive knowledge of manga. I mean, there are literally hundreds of published manga that one would have to sift through today to blindly locate plagiarism of this kind; whoever found this must have known what he was looking at instantly.

Makes you wonder how many other works do pass by the radar, undetected.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:41 pm Reply with quote
Talon87 wrote:
It's painfully obvious when we see the side-by-side comparisons, but I think that whoever caught this has a very sharp eye and extensive knowledge of manga. I mean, there are literally hundreds of published manga that one would have to sift through today to blindly locate plagiarism of this kind; whoever found this must have known what he was looking at instantly.

Makes you wonder how many other works do pass by the radar, undetected.


Read this Topic first. It's not just the art, but the concept of the story. Also the style is similar too.

You can also see the style of the art is a cheap imitation of Hiroaki Samura's art. Hiroaki's art is very stylistic because he use a line drawing style and he's one of the well known influential manga in Japan so it's not like there's a lot of mangaka that used that style.
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Talon87



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:16 pm Reply with quote
That's interesting how similar they are. I'm not sure if I would go so far as to say (to my eyes) that Samura's style is distinctive, (CLAMP or Koge Donbo's styles, on the other hand, would really stand out like sore thumbs for me), but I've never read any of Blade of the Immortal, and I'll take your word for it that anybody familiar with Hiroaki Samura's work would see this from a mile away.
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.Sy



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:57 pm Reply with quote
Ouch. TP's got to catch these things. The plagiarized versions definitely weren't drawn as well. The copycat scene of the woman paled in comparison to the original. Actually, I think it might've paled by itself.
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T0FFe3m@n



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:02 pm Reply with quote
I can understand "adopting" from other stories/plotlines, but blatantly copying actual frames from another manga? Why do they do it?
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Lyrai



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:03 pm Reply with quote
Walkabout wrote:
Gusty wrote:
Wow, what a spit in the face to all the entrants that worked so hard on original works. :/


This coming not so long after the Tenjho Tenge plagiarism...very sad...


What's this about TenTen plagarism? I haven't heard anything about that.


And I really didn't care much for the RSoM contest, mostly because it was TP grasping for manga since Del-Ray is kicking their ass now and getting the hot new titles. At least that's how I see it.
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Haru to Ashura



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:03 pm Reply with quote
What is tokyopop doing to remedy this? Anything at all?
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darkhunter



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:04 pm Reply with quote
That's the problem though, you haven't check out the manga.

A simple art below of Blade of the Immortal. Notice the heavy use of the "line" techinque?


If the picture was bigger, you can easily see hundreds of lines. It give the art a kinetic feel that isn't so prevalent in manga. If there's many manga that used this techique and use it well, I would really like to check it out.


This is one of Koge donbe's image and you can literally imagine many anime and manga that use a similar style. If I just saw that image and not familar with the title, it would be hard for me to tell who it was done by him. But then again, I find everything with big eyes, small nose and big head to look really similar.


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.Sy



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:09 pm Reply with quote
Haru to Ashura wrote:
What is tokyopop doing to remedy this? Anything at all?
I was going to ask why it's still up for voting and hasn't been taken off and cross-examined or anything, but since this piece of news came out today, we'll give them until tomorrow. It probably won't find it's way into the RSoM 6.

edit - I left out hasn't. What a difference that makes.


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HitokiriShadow



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:17 pm Reply with quote
Lyrai wrote:
Walkabout wrote:
Gusty wrote:
Wow, what a spit in the face to all the entrants that worked so hard on original works. :/


This coming not so long after the Tenjho Tenge plagiarism...very sad...


What's this about TenTen plagarism? I haven't heard anything about that.


The only thing I've heard about TenTen and plagiarism is that Ikki Tousen/Battle Vixens seems to have copied some frames from TenTen. The stories weren't alike at all aside from taking place at a high school with lots of fighters though. At least not that I know of.
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Beatdigga



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:41 pm Reply with quote
Immediate disqualification seems like the minimum penalty here.
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