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Tempest
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Did your parent know the first time you saw porn ? Sometime between the age of 12 and 16, most American children will get their first taste of porn. Around 12 and 13 their parents will assume that they haven't seen any porn yet, and around 16 their parents will just assume that the kids have seen porn. (Yes, I know you're in England, I assume it honestly isn't all that different.)
He's either sick, stupid, or both. If it was an accident, he's a collosal idiot for taking porn into his school, every teacher should be more than aware of the possible worst case scenario. Whatsmore, there's a good chance that if these two students "snitched" there were probably many others that were exposed to the porn before, others who didn't snitch. I don't trust the average 13 year old to tell the principal if one of their teachers shows them porn. -t |
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ZeroRyoko1974
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On their website they have a video clip about the story, and they refered to the downloaded images as "cartoon style porn" makes me wonder if he got them off 4chan
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Punchey Monk
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I think that the point of contention for most anime fans isn't the arrest or dismissal of the teacher in question. In my opinion, anyone who brings pornographic materials to work with him is either a sexual-predator-in-waiting at worst or terminally stupid at best. In either case, the man has no business being in a classroom.
The objectionable part to the average anime fan, at least from where I'm sitting is the use of the phrase: "Anime often contains adult imagery." Yes, "often" does not mean "always," but it does mean "frequently or in great quantities" (as per dictionary.com). To the average, uninitiated reader, it can (and inevitably will) be read by some as "The large majority Japanese animation is pornographic in nature." By extension, one can infer "Many anime fans are as sick, perverted, or moronic as this schlub who brought porn to work with him," so from that perspective, I think the righteous outrage of the otaku legions is justified to an extent. They don't want to tarred with the same brush as this idiot was. |
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ShootYouStars
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As a 13-year-old, I must say I saw that stuff in third grade. (Scary posters at the state fair. )
I would have done the same thing. And most likely asked the teacher "WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO DO???" and threw the notebook at him or something like that. 
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Dargonxtc
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Keep in mind that we don't know the nature of these pictures. While I agree that about 75% of kids 13-14 have seen breasts and the like, doesn't mean I want them exposed to a tentacle rape scene. The first time I was exposed to something like that I was an adult, and am still scared for life. And quite frankly there are even worse things out there. So please don't dismiss this as realistic drawings of naked bodies, something they most likely have seen. We don't know what it was. Anyway this guy is a huge idiot to even bring these to school, no matter whether they were just cutesy pics or hardcore or whatever. |
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hikaru004
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The guy was a moron for bringing it to school and for using a school computer to download stuff.
He got what he deserves. |
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Mistress9
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Yes that's it actually. This is especially horrid for me because i am currently in school to become a teacher. So, to have the newspaper article lump all anime in to a henti category, and hence lump all anime fans as perverts. Is really scary! Both professionally and personally. I do not as a anime fan, person and future Teacher like being assoicated with this freak at all. I think the newspaper should have done a bit more research. And yes I know henti exists, I am not disputting it's exsitence or saying that anime isn't violent. Heck one of my all time favorite shows is Elfen lied which = Violence and extreme nudity. However, I would never allow children acess to it, nor would I want to be labled as a perferted freak because I may like some of the more darker anime. I am also not saying if you dig Henti you are evil or anything. This guy is a freak, not because he dug Henti but because he was using it to possibly lure children. That is not forgivable and rather disgusting. And I do not think it's fair that we are all in some peoples eyes being labeled the same as him. PS. Sorry for the vent, this guy just really made me mad 
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hikaru004
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Isn't it interesting that whatever pics were in his possession failed the Miller test? I thought that some forms of hentai actually passed this test.
Could he have had child porn pics in his possession? Are we one step closer to a crackdown in the anime and manga departments? We did have that controversy with Manga: 60 years of Japanese Comics earlier this year. |
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mlund
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When I read this thread, it kind of reminded me of this comic.
Seriously, there is no way this guy didn't know that he wasn't supposed to bring that sort of stuff to school. You can't even have our or draw that kind of stuff at almost any job - even without kids around - because your employer can get hit with a sexual harassment complaint. - Marty Lund |
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Keonyn
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Except they didn't. They don't lump all anime in to a hentai category, because "all" does not come close to equally "often". Often can actually be a minority, it only represents a degree of regularity and there is no denying that anime often does contain adult oriented imagery or themes with enough regularity that stating it has it "often" is no lie at all. If I rent a movie from Blockbuster once a week or maybe twice a month I could still say I rent from Blockbuster often, because I do so with enough regularity. Being a teacher doesn't make you a perv, being an anime fan doesn't make you a perv, but due to specific aspects of the nature of anime there are some who will always think that regardless of what this article has in it or not. Just like people assume Country fans and NASCAR fans are uneducated rednecks, or that cheerleaders are dumb blondes, or that a trekky is automatically a geek and so on. Anime is hardly alone in the stereotyping department and it will exist to some degree based solely on the unique aspects of it no matter what you do. This article on the other hand didn't twist the facts, nor was it wrong, simply put anime does often contain adult content even if it's not hentai, it's part of what anime is and it's part of why most anime fans claim it's superior. They didn't necessarily have to add that little tidbit, I'll grant you that, but it still wasn't completely false either. |
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jaybug39
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What I think is scary, is that the journalist reporting the news of this event, deliberately went out of his way to single out anime, and how it is often associated with pornography. Fanservice is as pornographic as a Sears catalog. So what is the implication the reporter is trying to make? Is it to cause fear among parents who may have been about to allow their kids to watch anime? To remove anime, as it is the work of the devil sort of thing? What?
Think on this, in case someone ask you about anime, and how perverted is it really. Have a reasonable argument ready to rebut the insinuations you are going to get. |
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sorvani
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11 and 13? most likely one has hit puberty and the other is on the cusp of it. That being said, haven't you given them basic sexual education discussions? If so then they should be aware of it. Or are you trying to ASSUME automatically that he's got hard core hentai & tentacles & other perverse concepts? When he could simply have had very normal hentai doujinshi with nothing more than basic sex between partners of the opposite sex? There is a world of difference. Bringing this back to your statement, if it is the second of my options, i would HOPE pubescent children have been exposed to it. Open & honest sexual education prevents many problems down the road. The average american girl hits Tanner stage 2 at 10.9 years and the boys at 11.5 years. source: http://www.fpnotebook.com/END40.htm and http://www.fpnotebook.com/END41.htm I'm not defending him having this in school. For that the guy is a blithering idiot, and deserves to be punished. |
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hikaru004
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Actually, "often" is defined as "many time:frequently" by Merriam-Webster dictionary which implies a majority instead of minority of times since "frequently" is also defined as "habitual".
Yes, but the use of the phrase "adult content" has a different connotation than "mature content" by the general population. "Adult content" implies adult only material, whereas "mature content" usually implies complex issues, language, violence or sexual content not meant for individuals under a certain age determined by those involved in the discussion. An example of this distinction can be found here. For a discussion with the general population, your above statements are actually referring to mature content and not adult content. Reporters know how to differentiate between the two. Adult content would make a tie-in more with the obscenity and contributing to the deliquency of a minor charges that he got. |
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Mistress9
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Yes, I see your point. However, the majority of people who do not know enough about anime consider it porn, therefore they may see often but will more then likely assume always. I do realise that Anime Fans are not the only people to be stero typed, and their is an actual type of anime that falls into this sterotype. I also realise that be being both a teacher and an Anime fan does not mean your a Perv. However, thanks to this guy some people may see teachers who are anime fans as being off and therefore may view them as Perverts. l was also upset because he used something that was meant for adults, and that some of us might enjoy and twisted it to his own sick needs. More then likely trying to use it to lure children...that is not forgivable. I am sorry but someone who has that many pornagraphic items on their persons has not confiently forgotten. Not to mention the part where he tried to acess more porn on the school net. I also realise with freedom of press the paper could publish any thing they want. However, It would have been a bit nicer if they would have used the correct terminagly instead of lumping anime into one category. |
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GATSU
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Romuska:
If I was 14, and an older guy I didn't personally know tried to show me porn, I'd be ratting on his ass too. I don't wanna end up like that kid in that "very special" Different Strokes(no pun intended) episode. Although I shrugged when some vendor once showed me some Aladdin porn at that age, but he's just doing it for the money, anyway. |
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