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NEWS: Courtney Love Teams with TOKYOPOP for New Manga

At least Courtney Love and/or Tokyopop hired Yazawa Ai as a character designer for Princess Ai to make it a little more authentic.

and call it his own and most people wouldn't care because they don't WANT to watch those moldy, old, low-budget piles you seem to revere so much. Tarantino's films are entertaining and amusing and believe it or not, THAT is what matters,

Gung Soy Hoo-Park

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Gung Soy Hoo-Park

This from the guy that got me to stop people from using "gay" to mean "stupid."

I agree with your sentiment, about Gatsu's endless tirade, but believe it or not, a lot of people do care about Hong Kong cinema. When you talk about it that way, you come off like the various people that spoke ill of Anime 5 years ago. "No one want's to watch cruddy Japanese cartoons by Osama Nagasaki Zuki - who cares if Walt watched Jungle Emperor before making Kimba?"

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If you're suggesting that there's going to be a huge explosion in Asian cinema and it'll somehow reach critical mass like anime has and oh man I'll be eating my words some day

Gung Soy apparently had Chinese and Korean parents.

I really don't understand this. Apparently now it's evil to try and promote your product, and if you do, that makes you dumb. If you try and sell your anime or manga title beyond producing the book and putting it on the shelf, you've done evil in the eyes of fans who don't need to be promoted to since they slavishly read release lists and watch news sites and read scanslations of things before they hit the shelves.

Except that attitude makes absolutely no sense if you think about what you're saying. The company HAS to sell books. They have to promote books. They have to make sure people are buying books. The only way to do that is through promotion. Do you expect Tokyopop to just not promote their titles? Or is it that you unrealistically and selfishly expect them to only promote titles you like in a fashion you've approved?

I think the latter part of this is true for a lot of fans who don't even realize how incredibly arrogant and foolish that attitude is.

As for not buying "strange joint projects between Hollywood and Japan", you better stay away from Ghost in the Shell: Innocence, the upcoming Brave Story, and all of Miyazaki's recent films, all of which were heavily backed by US money. But I guess that's bad and evil too, maybe because it just "doesn't... feel... right..." which let me tell you, is the ultimate logical reason to dislike or disapprove of something.

I would really like it if people would think before opening their mouths. I think that's expecting too much, though.

I never once mentioned the excessive advertising and promotion that this book's getting. The word "advertising" never appeared in my post. That's something to be expected, and I can ignore it. I'm not objecting to advertising, I'm objecting to the project. When I said "a dumbass marketing stunt," I was referring to the manga itself. A collaboration of this magnitude is a marketing stunt, plain and simple.

So, Ghost in the Shell 2 and recent Hayao Miyazaki films were funded by US money? I wasn't aware, but it doesn't matter to me because that's all they were - funded. They weren't produced or created in conjuction with the US, like this Princess Ai is. That's what bothers me, because I can't think of an anime co-produced (not the same thing as co-funded) with an American studio that's turned out good.

Another thing I'd really appreciate is if you dropped the attitude. Just because you don't officially work here anymore doesn't mean you can just go hog-wild.

Let's just say I only respect Tokyopop when they promote genuine artists(see Rising Stars of Manga), not hacks who killed artists.

If you're suggesting that there's going to be a huge explosion in Asian cinema and it'll somehow reach critical mass like anime has and oh man I'll be eating my words some day, I disagree.

I think the market for Hong Kong action cinema is and will always be very small in America and Tarantino's films are essentially a distilled form of them, digestible by Americans and frankly, I think they're better.

Oh please. The Courtney Love murder conspiracies are for people who are still in denial that Cobain would do something as stupid and cowardly as kill himself. It happened ten years ago, it's time to admit that he wasn't OMG GENIUS who was MURDERED.

The market is small, because of a-holes like Tarantino getting credit for them and using Miramax to bury the originals. Kill Bill is just him saying, "Hah! I was a fan of Hong Kong films

The fact of the matter is, man, NOBODY CARES

For gods sake Gatsu just give it up. Tarantino is a good director.

The fact that Tarantino a lot of the elements from his movies are taken from Hong Kong movies doesn't take away from their quality. Also Tarantino is always acknowledging movies from Hong Kong and Japan.

Actually watch his movies and you will see that he highly respects actors and directors from Asia.

The fact that many of his favourite Asian actors appear in Kill Bill show this.

There are also references to Asian cinema in other films he has directed or written such as True Romance in which the main character goes to watch a Sonny Chiba marathon.

Tarantino is constantly making tributes to mediums that he loves whether it be Asian cinema, comic books or music. Also I have to agree with Zac, Tarantino's movies are better than their Asian counterparts. I have watched City on Fire (and for that matter am a fan of Asian cinema) and while it is a decent movie Reservoir Dogs is better.

What is with people having a problem acknowledging the excellence of movies from their own country.

If that's the case, why are the Asians in Kill Bill the bad guys

We all love to argue, but let's argue about Princess Ai or something.