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Ohoni
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I've had good rice balls. They often have a little flavor to the rice, or something wedged inside, and the way they are prepared can effect the consistency. |
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Dessa
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Holy Crap, I'm paying attention to the opening, and there are so many spoilers...
1) First shot of the opening shows Shiroe, Kei Shirogane (Shiroe's player), and spoiler[Roe2]. 2) Mysterious purple-haired chick with glasses (multiple places) 3) A shot both of spoiler[Nureha] on spoiler[her] own, as well as spoiler[her] with spoiler[the purple-haired chick] and spoiler[a group of LH guild members]. Plus, there's tons of stuff like Sou fighting, Akatsuki dying, the raid bosses, etc. |
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Stark700
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Season 2, episode 8:
Great episode this week. spoiler[A lot of action, movements, skills shown (even a new skill for Akatsuki!), and teamwork. I had a lot of fun watching the episode and thank God they managed to take that menace down.] The spoiler[pajamas party aftermath is cute too. :3] |
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Shikiari
 Posts: 462 Location: Wales |
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Episode 8
Did this episode deliver or what? It was, as Dessa said, utterly amazing. 
After a few episodes of build-up to this raid, it certainly didn't disappoint. Akatsuki's spoiler[new teaching looked awesome and was really helpful in clouding her attack pattern. The mechanics of 'Kiting', whilst swapping in other smaller teams to distract and damage was interesting and very well-done.] It did feel just like a raid. So Akatsuki has a spoiler[new Katana in 'Haganemushi Tatara'] from Tatara, so maybe she is finally ready to raid 'proper'. The pyjama party was really cute too, with an unexpected call from Shiroe. 
So next week we're returning to spoiler[Shiroe on Christmas Eve and to see his point of view with their death]. It should definitely be interesting. |
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Gewürtztraminer
 Posts: 1028 Location: Texas - Its like whole other country. |
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This season started a bit slow, even slower than the first. But the payoffs, as in this episode, are so worth it!
A ton of neat concepts and ideas really set this show apart for me, as if what if a game became reality? It is my most anticipated watch of the week. |
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Emerje
 Posts: 7336 Location: Maine |
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So I watched the first four episodes of the English dub (AniMaine dub debut screening) and it has quite a few questionable changes. First off they always call Shiroe 'Shiro' and completely ignore the e. Every other word out of Naotsuga's mouth is either bro or dude, he's a total muscle head now. Worst is Nyanta who has gone from proper gentleman to total pimp. He always calls Serara baby (and Shiroe once, too), usually says yo instead of you, and tells Demiques to "check yo self".
It's a shame because the rest of what I heard sounded pretty good, but these two talk too much and totally sap the fun out of it. Emerje |
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DuskyPredator
 Posts: 15457 Location: Brisbane, Australia |
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Season 2, Episode 8
Best of the season maybe? Akatsuki's new skill spoiler[was cool with all the clones]. But I really don't like the decision to spoiler[turn off the circle, so far they have been able to rely on it as a way to keep order, but now they would need a guard to protect from invaders or even each other]. That is pretty much a spoiler[police force that will have to also be paid and kept organised].
That sounds terrible. Naotsugu is meant to kind of be a dopey yet chivalrous pervert, who really was a normal guy. And Nyanta is a gentleman with a thing for acting cat like. |
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
 Posts: 3524 Location: Bellevue, WA |
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I wonder if the fallen Guard dude was somehow manipulated to turn murderous, thus necessitating them turning off the magic circle that protects the town? Even if the Guard hadn't found the sword, he still would've had teleport and empowered armor.
I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks. |
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Gina Szanboti
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Just listened to part of the dub. At first I thought, "No, this can't be the real thing, this must be a fandub." Then I finally heard some familiar voices and just facepalmed. Even when the acting was decent, the script sabotaged them. It's really terrible.
I think the ADR director (who has directed Full Metal Panic! and Kino's Journey) heard "trapped in an MMORPG" and thought "Ok, gamers are the target audience, let's go with a military fps sensibility here, heavy on the bro-speak..." |
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Dessa
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I'm watching the episode now, but reading the comments is making me glance warily at my BD set.
Although, I will point out, many of the characters do call Shiroe "Shiro". |
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ChibiKangaroo
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I was very satisfied with this episode. We have been building for Akatsuki's development for a very long time, and so it was a great choice to have so much of the episode dedicated to maximizing on her personal growth. Also, like last week, this week again put all of the girls front and center, and had them all perform masterfully. It is really wonderful to see a show treating its female characters with such dignity. The tactical aspects of the "raid fight" were executed almost flawlessly too, from the "kiting" technique, to the fact that people were warned not to "aggro" him and thus draw him off Akatsuki, as well as how the lead tactician talks about how he might actually deviate from normal behavior of a raid boss (since it's not a game anymore) so they have to be extra careful. There was a lot of thought that went into orchestrating that episode-long battle. Certainly, all of us can wish that this show had the animation budget of one of the more high-profile shows, but Log Horizon still delivers solid content episode after episode. I'd give the end of this arc an A-.
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Ohoni
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It was a fun episode, but I really don't get why they spoiler[shut down the magic circle when they did. They had him on the ropes, they could have finished him off regardless. Even if he did manage to teleport away, they managed to nearly break his sword, which wouldn't heal, and they could probably track him down. Losing the protection of the circle is not going to end well, presumably they will get invaded by the other adventurer faction and have no NPC back-up.
] Also, I know this is an MMO nitpick of mine, but between this and SAO, and given how varied their spell catalogues seem to be, you would think that at least one class would have a good "tracer lock" spell that would allow them to follow him even if he does teleport away.
So it's like one of those parody fan-dubs then? Someone showed me the Free one and it was pretty amusing. |
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Dessa
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I'm watching the dub right now, and while I am finding it lacking, it is not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be.
Shiroe Shiroe's voice goes back and forth. At some points, it's utterly perfect. At others, it seems a bit too deep. At others, it's not too deep, but it's gravelly, instead of a smoother voice that fits him better. It seems to be evening out as the episode is going on, so I'm hoping he improves as it goes. Naotsugu Naogsugu's voice is well acted, but the voice is a bit too deep for him. Furthermore, I'm not liking some of the dialogue changes with him. At times, they make him more crass than he is in the sub, at others, they tone it down. Akatsuki I'm loving Akatsuki's voice. It fits her perfectly. It's not too young, but still has a pretty youthful sound. She's not high pitched, she's not too low. And her voice acting fits perfectly. She does a great job of getting that formality to her manner of speaking, without making it sound awkward. Marielle and Henrietta Both of them were utterly perfect. I'll pause here, because I want to address a couple of points. Point 1: Names and addresses In the subs, many people do refer to Shiroe as "Shiro-[honorific]". However, as was said earlier, everyone is calling him that. I can see where people can be upset by that, but I can also see where it doesn't bother others all that much. I think they're treating it as a silent "e", that many English names use when they have an "e" at the end. Marielle, however, everyone is using her full name of, instead of the shortened Marie/Mary. ^^; Also, as a random note... In episode 2, when Shiroe tells Akatsuki she doesn't have to call him "lord", she tells him he can stop calling her "miss"... except he hadn't called her that at all! Point 2: Dialogue Changes I touched this a bit with Naotsugu, but there's a lot of dialogue changes. Some of it is the same general dialogue, but with a different "flavor". "Sir pervypants" instead of "this strange pervert." Naotsugu's "dude" addiction that was mentioned in an earlier post. The insults also seem much more juvenile. Then there's the utter "this makes no sense" dialogue changes, where the new dialogue, while fitting in fine, is completely different from the original. Or, even worse, they'll add in lines that are out of place, such as Naotsugu asking what a PKer is. Another of my favorites was changing "they read too much manga" to "they watch too much anime". A rather damning dialogue error, was when Shiroe and Naotsugu first find Akatsuki, Shiroe describes Akatsuki as someone he'd been in "raiding parties" with. Except that it's actually a plot point that Akatsuki has never been in a raid, so that creates a direct contradiction. Since I haven't run into Serara or Nyanta yet in episode 2, I'll go straight into a 3rd point that's come up: Point 3: Narration vs Dialogue I can't pinpoint exactly how they're doing it in the sub, but there's a different quality to Shiroe's voice when he's doing narration of game element explanations, rather than speaking to someone else. The dub doesn't have that, and it's a bit confusing on if he's speaking to another player or to the audience. Nyanta and Serara didn't speak in episode 2, but other than the dialogue changes, you can tell that the voice actors are at least growing into their roles. The negative comments on the voices don't exactly get nullified, but there's a little less awkwardness to the performances. Hey, we have more voices! Serara Serara is adorable, and fits her. Honestly, I'd expect it to be slightly even more highpitch. Nyanta The voice itself isn't too bad. However, the acting, the direction, and the dialogue is horrible. He does sound like a stereotypical black guy, and the use of the word "baby" and such make him sound like a pervert. I think the person who called him a "pimp" in the dub was pretty spot-on. Other Characters Heard a bit of Crusty and Misa, as well as some other people from the Crescent Moon Alliance and other guilds, and their voices don't sound too bad. Seems like theirs won't be too bad. Kanami's voice is pretty good, too. Sou's is a bit off, but I'll need to hear more of it than one flashback scene. Overall Other than Nyanta's voice, and some jarring (or outright plot hole-inducing) dialogue changes, it's at least a serviceable dub. It's not outstanding, but it's in no way "bad", since there's far worse dubs out there. Hopefully, there'll be improvements in the second set, as well as the second season. |
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Emerje
Posts: 7336 Location: Maine |
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Yeah, that's pretty much how I felt about the dub (there was only so much I could write while poking that post above into my tablet at the convention). The dub has some high points and showed signs of improving. Making small dialogue changes to match mouth flaps or make some obscure Japanese comments a bit more palatable doesn't bother me. However, what they did to Nyanta is a 4Kids level rewrite of the character and I just can't accept that, it's too drastic. I'll never understand why they decided to make him sound like a character from the Boondocks.
This is what my ideal Nyanta would sound like in English. It's a food related video clip, too.  I like the way he drags out the last syllable of his sentences, already sounds like he's making Japanese cat noises. Would have been a great voice to model off of I think.
Emerje |
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Bugnin
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I'm glad I stuck out this otherwise boring season. That episode was wonderful.
Good for Akatsuki. |
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