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NEWS: Otakon Discussed During Baltimore Baseball Coverage


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Berserga



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:38 pm Reply with quote
Man that is nothing for culture shock. Back at Otakon 99 there was some kind of Muslim convention going on at the same time.

So ya had this guy with a bullhorn out front saying stuff about how bad america is bla bla, and women milling around covered head to toe, so contrast that with the typical female cosplayer. Very Happy

I'd rather deal with overpaid jocks any day.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:39 pm Reply with quote
TakinawaTonfa wrote:
(all 10 of you Wink )


Hey man, we had at least 25.

Also, there were way more Yankees fans there than Orioles fans, and some of the heckling was pretty vicious.

The irony of someone spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars to attend 3 games in a different state, pay exhorbitant rates for booked-solid hotels and stay in Baltimore for 3 days just to watch 3 games they could easily catch on TV at home making fun of anime fans is pretty thick.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:43 pm Reply with quote
biliano wrote:
I don't think it was a wise idea for Orioles fans to be heckling the cosplayers. Last I checked, the O's haven't done much of anything since 1997. Rolling Eyes


It was mostly the Yankees fans doing the heckling. They're not as bad when their team is winning, but when they're losing, they can be pretty vicious. We went to the Os game on Friday, and walking with them near the BCC, you could hear a lot of them giving the cosplayers shit. (And that's when they were happy about the game.)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:46 pm Reply with quote
My first reaction was: "Oh jeez, leave the cosplayers alone!" Then I thought, "Well, maybe the cosplayers were being jerks and forgot that if you're going to dress and act weird, you'd better be prepared for the fallout." This evolved into, "It's about time some anime fans in the midst of convention ecstasy got a cold splash of water in the face about the little world they inhabit for one weekend." We (anime fans, particularly cosplayers) are a bunch of people acting extremely silly over a singularly foreign medium.

Cosplay is rampant silliness, it just is, and that's why a lot of people won't touch it with a 10-foot pole. No one will ever convince me otherwise. Individuals who are really "into" cosplay disturb me with the depth of seriousness they bring to the hobby. I feel an Answerman rant coming on...
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PeaceMaker1



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:01 pm Reply with quote
I'm glad the cosplayers were harassed. They need to get a grip of reality and stop running around home-made costumes that look downright ridiculous. I enjoy watching anime and that's about as far as it goes. There's no need for all the dressing up.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:03 pm Reply with quote
PeaceMaker1 wrote:
I'm glad the cosplayers were harassed. They need to get a grip of reality and stop running around home-made costumes that look downright ridiculous. I enjoy watching anime and that's about as far as it goes. There's no need for all the dressing up.


Yeah, anyone who approaches anime as a hobby differently than you do deserves to be publically mocked.


It's a convention. They go there specifically to be surrounded by like-minded people who are just there to have a good time. The Yankees fans were just being dicks.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:06 pm Reply with quote
Deltakiral wrote:
Because it's so damn expensive to see the Red Sox at their own home games. As much as I love Fenway they need more seating, I bought tickets for my dad and brother (who are going to see the sox play the yankee on the 20th) for $300. Face value of these tickets......$12.


Sorry, didn't mean to offend or bad mouth the Red Sox (just making light of how Peter Angelos can never fill up Visitors Park at Camden Yards). Heck, one of the reasons I like RFK is that I can pick up an outfield ticket for $3 most of the time.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:10 pm Reply with quote
i was at the yankee/orieles game across the street. then went to the con after to wait for my ride. that was the first actual con i've been to just sitting outside waiting for my ride to come was amazing. I've never seen so many people that liked anime like me. and i did get a picture with warrio. i don't think i was hackling. i would have rather went to the con than to the game. but i didn't get my registration in ): gomen nasai if i was hackling but i really don't think i was. i was just there to enjoy and see the interesting outfits that cosplayers wear Anime smile and be in the anime spirit! Very Happy

>> mitsuki-chan Anime smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:12 pm Reply with quote
Well, two years ago it was the Red Sox playing the O's at Camden Yards a day before the con. The friend driving us down went a day early to see the game. I had a Damon jersey (which I now kinda want to burn) and my roomate who drove had a Nomar shirt. Funny enough, by the end of the weekend, they traded Nomar, so we saw his last game. He was freaking out when he heard the news.

Of course the funny thing is that I wore my Damon shirt Thursday night at registration. I had semi-long or medium hair and hadn't shaved in a bit. From behind, you saw similar Damon hair and the Damon shirt. So it was almost a Damon 'cosplay'. I got a bunch of shout outs while in line and walking around the con pre-reg from Red Sox fans.
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energydan



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:17 pm Reply with quote
They should be glad that's all that happened to them. It's Baltimore! Anytime you can go to Baltimore and back without being stabbed, shot, or raped, it's been a successful day!
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Nabeshin



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:22 pm Reply with quote
RezSav wrote:

It was funny because this guy knew what he was talking about, a few quotes where: "What, you don't watch Family Guy? No Lupin the third?" He even pronounced Lupin right, good stuff.


It's nice when the rest of the media gets it right once in a while-- unlike virtually every NY Times article ever written on the subject. Samurai Champloo about ninjas? Rolling Eyes
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Zeiram



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:35 pm Reply with quote
Anime culture is a scary place for those who don't understand it and for those who have even less of an opinion they see costumes, transexuals, corssdressers, the weirdest things that they could probably live without

and of course there is much about baseball we can say the same from our sdie and surely all fandom allow for cosplay

ICP and all their minion fans dressing as clowns. i so wish that picture i ook of the line for autographs at wizard world actually came out, damn analog cameras. They were so pathetic.

you know, i really get it, even tho we romanticise taboos and delve into subsect of subsects of the culture, we are all seeking acceptence

others just want to have fun and express their love of the art and this is the point where all fandoms should be as one, as brothers or sisters
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:14 pm Reply with quote
Nabeshin wrote:
It's nice when the rest of the media gets it right once in a while -- unlike virtually every NY Times article ever written on any subject.


Fixed for great justice! Wink

Seriously though, you'll get that sort of heckling reaction out of just about any mainstream venue that serves large sums of alcohol to random sportsfans.

Oh, and when I lived in Boston, yeah, there was a mass exodus to Baltimore when the Red Sox went to Camden Yards. The Yankees also fail to draw as large a crop of fans in Boston compared to anywhere else they go to. Fenway is just too small and the scalpers who a ridiculous amount of the tickets charge stupidly high prices for games - which Sox fans still pay for. Heck, the whole season was sold out like months before Opening Day.

Anyway, ignore the drunks, 'n punks, and layabouts and go about your business. If you can't handle that level of harassment, you probably shouldn't go out in public with a "Pay attention to me!" sign hanging around your neck. It is kind of like wearing a A-Rod jersey on top of the Green Monster - don't expect sunshine and puppy-farts.

- Marty Lund
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:32 pm Reply with quote
I somewhat noticed the heckling, it was fun to walk in from the side entrance which is across the street from Camden Yards where all of the vendors set up with their "Red Sox Suck" and "Yankees Suck" shirts and such and then me walking down the street in a totoro shirt getting stares and whatnot as people start walking in the opposite direction etc. The worst day for the heckling though was sunday when the fans came into the con as the staff at the convention center wasn't checking badges that day since there wasn't much open to begin with, so instead groups of 2-10 Yankees fans at a time would sporatically wonder in out of interest and hiss and boo at the cosplayers and remark under their breath "look at these freaks" and such. I didn't really see anything that bad though, like no fights broke out etc. like what normally happens with Yankees fans wherever they go. Rolling Eyes At least last year there were some funnier moments when the homeless people started asking for the free tokyopop bags and such. Hopefully the Orioles will play out of town next year as it brought in some VERY annoying people and took away MANY hotel rooms and causing some bad things (overhearing people getting robbed etc since their hotel was so far away in an unsafe neighborhood). Stinkin Yanks fans... bring trouble with em everywhere. Wink
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TAKAVAR



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:35 pm Reply with quote
Well, cons are there for anime fans, and cosplay is acceptable within the fandom, but you take it out side of it, well , thats what you get for not going by the norms. I think a con without cosplayer is pointless, and a cosplayer outside a con is just stupid. I personally don't cosplay, but really like to see cosplays of characters that i like.

In AnimeNorth, on the way back from the bus someone asked us what was going on with people in the wierd costumes and such, we just said that its an animation convension, and the person said: "Oh, Intresting"
thats the politest answer you can ever get Very Happy

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So ya had this guy with a bullhorn out front saying stuff about how bad america is bla bla, and women milling around covered head to toe, so contrast that with the typical female cosplayer.

As a muslim fan, i'll just leave it at this: don't pay any attention to these idiots.
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