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Nayu
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I'm pretty sure that using his insane troll logic, he's winning. I'm pretty sure anyone who doesn't subscribe to insane troll logic is terribly amused by his "I'm taking my toys and leaving" tantrum cause he can't answer your simple question. |
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Raspberry'Gynoid
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In a way, we were in a semantics argument to begin with. Moe is a buzzword, and otaku is a broad concept that extends to military and train fans.
And that would be hard to avoid, since the term otaku, at least, was immediately invoked in the article title. And moe was soon to follow thereafter. But for where the argument has taken, I think that things could be far more civil if we could talk in specifics about matters. At least people might be able to find some common ground. It seems like people like talking in broad strokes, because it makes it easier to degrade and other rather than to understand their perspective. A higher degree of understanding, rather than blanket generalizations, elitism, closed mindedness, and general intolerance for other people and their tastes and circumstances. |
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ProjectLEAF
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There's more troll-logic in ignoring points and proceeding to ask irrelevant questions.
What can I say? I don't have time to sit here chase my tail with this guy. You're either going to think for yourself and argue my points or not. There are entire posts of mine he's disregarded in favor of goalpost moving and hair splitting. But yeah if I don't answer his mighty questions then I lose and my points are invalid. Right. Last edited by ProjectLEAF on Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:18 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Rahxephon91
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Why should our empathy be that which encourages behavior that seems pretty negative and not one that helps anybody. Are you saying you just want people to leave you alone as you wallow in this despair that you-as you make it sound- pretend it is'nt there through fake cartoons that cuddle you and in no way encourage positive change. I guess that positive change is in the eye of the beholder and us other people have no business saying anything right? All these posts are quite frankly very sad. They all come off as "relationships are very hard, humans a very hard! So I'll just have fake female anime friends. Don't JUDGE ME!. You don't know! Who gets to decide what is good anyway!" Well I guess you're right, who does get to decide what is good and what isn't. I don't know though, I feel like the tons of years of humanity would suggest "social isolation" isn't exactly good for people. "Oh being a shut-in is'nt bad. It's a choice. You don't get to tell me it's bad". Ok sure, I guess we don't. I guess it's just our warped perspective as social beings to see others who willfully try to avoid any sort of human social activity and replace them with cartoons as negative. Gee, I wonder where we got that idea. |
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Kaisos Erranon
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Here's a point for you: Maybe you should take your [expletive] and shove it up your [expletive] while you [expletive] in the [expletive]. Or, you know, you could actually explain yourself and, oh, I don't know, foster some decent bloody discussion in this apocalyptic Hades of a thread. |
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MR20
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I'm going to quote what i posted in regards to this on NeoGAF before i got banned (bunch of not-so-nice-people)
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Rahxephon91
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That is a GAF troll post if I ever saw one.
spoiler[I sure hope so.] |
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Paradox295
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I never said "inherently". I said naturally. "Inherently" would imply that it's a consistent characteristic among women, when that isn't true. People have been selectively bred for centuries. The men who hunt the most, and can fight off attackers live on to continue their bloodline. Likewise with women who are good child bearers. Now, don't take that to mean "hurr, durr. men are strong, women only used for cooking food and baby making". Those are gender roles. But they were naturally created so that people in pre-modern eras would be successful in breeding. Of course, they're outdated in modern times, but they were naturally developed for a reason. To deny otherwise is to deny the concept of evolution. There's a reason that Ronda Rousey doesn't fight Renan Barão, even though they are both the champions of their respective Bantamweight divisions of the UFC.
Not necessarily. I had to train myself to be social. I used to barely say a word to anyone except the people I was most closest to. That was up until, say 18 months ago, when I realized it was an obstacle that was causing problems in my life, which I decided to change. It's not like you can just get up one morning and say "I'm not going to struggle talking to strangers any more". It takes some effort, but eventually, you will stop being reluctant to talk to new people. So, the question is. Do I lack empathy towards you? Or do I feel that you have more potential than you believe, and that you gave up too damn early? |
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ProjectLEAF
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Wrathful
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http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-everyone-gets-wrong-about-mental-illness_p2/ This should explain better than I could that Mental problems are not that simple as treating broken bones or cold. And we just DON'T sit on our asses all day. We do look for help from psychologists, we do seek friends to confide in but not many people understand why you're mad or frustrated. Anyways anime is such a big relief to exterior stress, there is such reasons why quite a number of people gets overly obsessed. The way I see a lot of people likes doing in excess, anime is no different. |
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DmonHiro
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Well, what do you know, you found some free time after all. But you're right, this post you just wrote was much more informative then what you don't have time to write, right? |
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Bright_Spear
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This is like all the conversations I've had with staunch hard scifi fans that thinks they know what's way better for industry then rest of the fans that are beneath them. What they know(in both cases) is whats better for their own tastes in entertainment.
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ProjectLEAF
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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31 pages running in circles and we're basically at the "everyone fling poo at eachother" phase so I'm going to shut this down now and not worry about babysitting it over the weekend.
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