Forum - View topicThe Mike Toole Show - Dropping the Ball on Anime
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NeoStrayCat
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@gilnokoibito: Magical girl stuff...
Yeah, I get what you mean, funny thing though, a legit DVD set for the (4kids) dub TMM/MMP (26 eps) did make its way into South Africa for some reason. @PurpleWarrior:Very high hopes... Same here, I know its been a decade+ since the Sub and almost 9 years since the dub aired. But it would be nice if the Anime version of TMM did get a re-release and a re-dub, but chances for that are real slim, I mean, at least there's the Omnibus Manga's to hold off for the time being. And yeah, I guess no one bothered to even license out Shugo Chara, but hey, at least Crunchy has it available for the time being. And I think we've already got plenty of answers regarding the Mermaid Melody thing, so yeah. Lastly, shame about Cromartie for the Manga version canned partways because ADV went under, good series though in both ways, but a show to be not taken seriously, even though its a comedy. 
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Ren-Ren#1
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WHAAAA?!! I hadn't noticed that Viz took down the stream of Full Moon! Too bad... Well, at least I still have my fansub CDs packed away somewhere if i get the urge to rewatch it (and, yes, I purchased Viz's DVD releases as they came out too).
More than with Full Moon, I was super sad that Hikaru no Go was never fully released on DVD. That's my absolute favorite show ever and I rewatch it every few years. Luckily, Viz hasn't taken down that stream yet...I'll cry if they do. I would buy the second half on iTunes, but it looks like only the dub is available. Knowing that the stream could disappear, I might actually buy it anyway, just to be safe. |
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matthewlow
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Guess I would count as one of the rabid Conan fans hoping it comes back to the US. I can see it being successful on something like Crunchyroll or huge subtitled only box sets, perhaps using the AnimeSols business model. That way the rabid fans can put their money where their mouth is.
I know I would be first in line. However, without a drastic change in business model, it's hard to honestly believe it can come back. |
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NJ_
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It's true, Sentai also had issues with them as well since their release of The Skull Man had the opening replaced by a trailer due to the song being performed by one of their bands (in fact, it was the same band involved with Kodocha). The same happened with FUNi's release of One Piece where for season 4, Ending 14 (episodes 207-230) was replaced because the song was also by a Johnny's band and the shocking thing about that one is that they somehow got to use Opening 8 (episodes 284-325) from that same band for season 5 so FUNi had to have paid a ton for that. Speaking of paying a ton, Discotek's release of Lovely Complex has all of the Opening & Ending themes which is still shocking because those songs were performed by not one but two Johnny's bands. 
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Echo_City
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It has been months since Funimation released Aquarion EVOL part 1 and we've still no word of Part 2.
Will we be seeing Aquarion Evol in a future article like this? |
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Hunter Sopko
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More than you'd think, actually. They still beat the majority of the more disastrous releases from Geneon and ADV, from what I remember. |
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enurtsol
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Maybe should read this: "What are the technical differences between creating subtitles for DVDs and Blu-ry Discs? And were HD-DVDs any better or worse?" Anyways, an economics concept that some people may be missing is opportunity cost - the value of the best alternative forgone, in a situation in which a choice needs to be made between several mutually exclusive alternatives given limited resources. E.g. it's not that a company can't put resources on something, but it's that there's something else they can put that limited resources on, that would yield better return of investment. Sure they can put resources on finish releasing your favorite series, but what if they can instead put those limited resources to work on a new series that would get them more money, particularly when time is of the essence (such as releasing something while it's still hot - further delay start losing sales). Just something to consider. |
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Preacherofdoom
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how do you write an article about this subject and not mention Toriko? it's the biggest anime to recently only be partially released. funimation put out about 50 episodes in 4 sets the last of which was almost a year ago. the show has maintained good ratings in the top ten in japan and continues way past where the 4th set leaves off.
most of the animes mentioned only have a niche following while toriko is pretty popular. talk about "dropping the ball" on your own article. Last edited by Preacherofdoom on Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:33 am; edited 5 times in total |
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Gina Szanboti
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@enurtsol: I had the impression the complaint was about the quality of the translation rather than the technical quality of the letters on the screen, but I could be wrong.
As for spending money to release something while it's hot, that doesn't seem to be in the calculations of Viz at least, which sat on Monster for 2 years after they acquired it, and the series had been over in Japan for almost 2 years before that. |
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E-Master
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When it comes to unfinished anime released in the US, The Red Jacket Lupin series always pops up in my head cause only 79 out of 155 episodes were released in the US. Had Geneon not lost the rights to the series we might of seen at least a Volume 16 DVD, but even if they did continue releasing the DVDs there probably would of been a halt after the company went under in 2007. So either way the English dub of the entire Red Jacket series became incomplete. Which was a shame cause I did enjoyed the English dub with all of the inserted pop culture jokes. Only time will tell if there will be a re-license on that series to at least see both the dub episodes and the non-dub episodes get released on a couple DVD box sets.
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EricJ2
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Uh, okay, how about the script's "Freakin' crap!" case of Tourette's Syndrome? (A medical condition where shouting obscenities is not only frequent, but unexplained...)
Of course, that's more of a chicken-and-egg situation, where we'll never know where the true fault was.: The dub on Geneon's Lupin--specially made for CN broadcast deal--was ALMOST as obnoxious as Sgt. Frog's (and for the same reasons), but it tanked in the ratings, and those a little too paranoid of pre-90's animation said "Guess they thought it was too old!  "
The Geneon disks continued up through Vol. 15, past the TV series run, but how much longer would it have run without an obnoxious condescending, slot-sabotaged Adult Swim deal to pay the bills? |
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E-Master
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EricJ2
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Wellll, now that you bring it up... 
Wanna throw Ghost Stories in there too? |
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chibmomo
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The problem I feel comes down to money and of course sales of said dvd/ product. And this isn't just anime in general but with manga as well. A lot of manga have been dropped or put on the back burner because the company gets hold of a more popular series that will bring in more money.
It can also be said that downloading could also be a reason that certain series are dropped due to low sales. Considering that many times fans do not want to wait for the next DVD to come out or are short on cash, which is understandable. I myself watch anime and read manga online. But that is only to make sure I want to invest in that series before shelling out the money. |
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jr240483
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Understatement of the year. and cause of the horror that was 4kids, none of these series will ever get a proper english dub like one piece. But what Viz Media did ( hack them to make them kid friendly ) to Eyeshield 21,Blue Dragon, Prince of Tennis , MAR , and especially Gash Bell was GOD FORSAKEN AWFUL! You cant be surprised they drop them in a hurry cause those abomination releases nearly ruined their reputation towards the otaku community and nearly became this close to being compared to 4kids. Also the writer forgot about Maccross. ADV also released uncut english dubs for that series. hell they even went so far and hire the japaneese VA for Lin Minmay to voice the english dub. how that series was never completed is beyond me, but i have a nasty feeling that harmony gold (who rewrited the series as robotech) have something to do with it which is why even to this day macross frontier haven't been licensed in the US. and it was the same time they (ADV) did the uncut saint seiya releases. Dont know what was it that made it a bust, but the newer series definitely should have gotten releases. But releasing only english sub version of sailor moon season1 and 2 was insane on ADV's part. and speaking of which, its high time that series get a US license. especially the sailor stars series since THIS IS NO LONGER THE FREAKING 90'S!! its the 21st centry for christ sakes and the content from the stars series is not gonna cause some mega controversy that will ruin the franchise's reputation. especially now that the whole manga series is out. and no one should NOT be that surprised that detective conan didn't do well in the US. all of those americanized editing as well renaming the series doomed the series from the start. However cutting bait with Kodocha is have to be the biggest head scratcher that Funimation did ever. that is until they decided not to get season 2 of Hell Girl as well as Shuffle Memories. Also the writer also forgot about Card Captor Sakura. that series got the short end of the stick by getting licensed by Nelvana who is JUST AS BAD & TO THIS DAY HAVE BECOME EVEN WORSE THAN 4KIDS!!! Though Pioneer/Geneon did a sub only release , and let bang zoom do the movies (thank god) that is still no excuse for a very popular and well known series like that to still to this day have no US license and given a proper english dub. |
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