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| GATSU Posts: 8419 |
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| Zac: Oh, Kim Jong Il's definitely a scumbag, but he still has
less blood on his hands than the Japanese.  |
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Dargonxtc Posts: 4153 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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| GATSU: Oh sure the Japanese have plenty of blood on there hands. Many of there leaders 70 years ago were brutal. In fact any major nation has its brutal moments; including ours, the Chinese, the Koreans, the Russian, the British, the Spainards, the French, the Germans, the Italians, the numerous nations of Africa, pretty much every nation in South America, pretty much everyone at some point in history.
But if we are talking about the conduct of the Japanese since WWII, it has been pretty good(with the exception of the guy on the island that kept shooting people for 40 years). I, and I think most modern eastern(and western) people, our more concerned with atrocities that are occuring now, not 70 years ago. ... . ... . ... . ... |
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| GATSU Posts: 8419 |
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If we cared about atrocities, we wouldn't be doing business with China, which is basically N. Korea-lite in terms of human rights abuses. Hell, we'd also be going off to Sudan and Rwanda instead of Iraq, but the only blacks we care about are the liquids found in refineries. |
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| Dargonxtc Posts: 4153 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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As far as taking on China, do you really understand how much bloodshed would have to take place in order to change there policies. The fact is doing business with them makes there economy more reliant on capitalism, which will slowly makes the population more independent. If we stopped business altogether it would actually make them stronger as a nation, putting a virtual monopoly on the whole east(excluding Japan). As far as Rwanda is concerned I do believe in 1994 the President of the United States should have implemented some sort of action to prevent the genocide of a million Tutsis.(I was an understudy of this conflict in college, if you really want to debate) but alas that is all in the past. To be fair I think we should take action in the Sudan as well, but it seems we have a lack of the 'coalition of the willing'. It would be nice for some other countries to merciful for once. Maybe France will take the lead. Back on Japan, it is obvious you want them to hate themselves, and everything there family has done in the past. Can't we all just get along? Did Kanye write a book or something? |
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jay saenz Posts: 81 Location: Costa Rica |
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| I just read the article about Mr Aso in the wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/ He is really controversial... i was have belived that Japan should work with their asian neighbors instead of fight with them. I mean Japan should recongnize that they have more in common with China and Korea than with Europe and North America. Nacionalistic statements wont help to improve the image of Japan in Asia. He might be an otaku, but i disagree with the way he sees his asian neighbors. Japan is not better than any country... its good to feel proud about one's nation, but it is a different story if you belive that your people is better than the rest of mankind. If Japan wants to be the superpower in Asia, the country should improve the relationships with their neighbors, and set this goal as the key of its foreign policy. The 21th century belongs to Asia, but its up to Japan if they play a key role in that position or if they prefer the old times and remains as the US's puppy in the Far East. About North Korea, well, i understand the concerns of Japan about the militar and nuclear power of Kim Jong Il, and the capability of this country to strike Japan in a near future. Since Japan is the closest allie of the US in Asia, that attack is possible and i agree that Japan should be aware of that and take actions to prevent it. But in order to do that, Japan needs the assistence of the local superpowers: South Korea and China. If China backs up the Yong regime and Japan lost the support of South Korea, the north koreans will have the chance to try something. But if China and Japan team up, a pacific resolution will be possible and perhaps, the days of the dictatorship of Kim Jong will be over. |
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| dormcat Encyclopedia Editor  Posts: 7336 Location: Hsinchu City, Taiwan, ROC |
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Read the first paragraph of my previous post and you'll know why Japan behaves like that for the past 120 years. |
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| tArOrAt Posts: 3 Location: JP Satsuma |
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Um I couldn't find the name of asian coutries except China, DPRK, SK and Japan in your post though do you know how many countries in asia? More than 30. not only 4. And our government doesn't want to be the superpower in asia like CCP, I suppose. It sounds so troublesome.
Are you serious? While CCP is the string-puller of DPRK... |
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| Dargonxtc Posts: 4153 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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But somewhat relevent to what people have been saying. |
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| jay saenz Posts: 81 Location: Costa Rica |
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Japan is one of the main investors in China, and i belive that as time goes on, the comunist retoric of the chinese goverment will slow down. Japan and China are natural trade partners. I know that there are several countries in Asia: Thailand, Singapore, Taiwan (for me its a country on its own), The Philipines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malasya, India, Sri Lanka... i know some geography . But the key players in the North Korea conflict are China, both Koreas and Japan... plus the United States and Russia. I did not wanted to ignore the position of the other countries of the area, but to be honest with you, i have not information about what role they have in the North Korean nuclear issue. |
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| GATSU Posts: 8419 |
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| jay: Um, China still thinks there was nothing wrong with its Tianemen Square crackdown, and is willing to nuke Taiwan and crush Tibet the minute they openly claim independence. | ||||||
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| tArOrAt Posts: 3 Location: JP Satsuma |
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Well we'd love to if China want to build a fifty-fifty relationship with us... Chinese always look for opportunities for blamng Japan in the name of Asian citizen, though in practice they regard themselves not as Asian but as nobler ones.They don't have sense of equality(And Korean as well). That's the reason why I insisted that there are many countries in asia. An indirect way though We better to form a coalition against these three with other "TRUE" asian countries. It's just a separation, not a discrimination. |
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