Forum - View topicHow much does your love for a character influence your efforts to find H of them?
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Crisha
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I prefer going with characters that I have an emotional connection to as well, though my preferred method of H is in written form - I find it tends to be hotter and more romantic (when written well). Fanfiction can build a better story and express emotions better. H doujin often has things that I find annoying (at least in my experiences):
1. Rapey situations, if not outright rape.  No, that's not a turn-on.
2. This is more for yaoi than anything else, but exaggerating character traits so that the characters fit the seme/uke formulas. Especially in regards to changes in character appearances - one character is drawn like an angelic cherubim and the other is the dashing, broad-shouldered debonair. Even if their original appearances weren't like that, they're modified in order to fit the role. Which ties in with the next point... 3. Exaggerating physical characteristics. Characters with normal or bigger than normal boobs suddenly have ginormous tatas. Male characters that might have been more androgynous are suddenly ultra-willowy. Whatever change is needed in order to fit the formula and sell the image. That doesn't mean I haven't found H doujin that I enjoy, because I have. I just more often than not have more luck and enjoyment from fanfiction in regards to NC-17 stuff. If I read doujin, I prefer to stick with the gen stuff or ones with more story. |
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Vaisaga
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So we can name such sites? Cool. I use Dlsite and Melonbooks' download store to get stuff. They're in Japanese, but not that difficult to navigate (I think there are guides out there). Though with Melonbooks, books come as an encrypted PDF file.
The set has since been posted publically on that one certain extremely big hentai site. There also another doujinshi I bought awhile ago. Decent art, but it ends abruptly before it really gets to the good part.
It was the first anime calendar I bought. I've gotten one every year since. Also I didn't realise ANN had a "This URL is a known Bootlegging website" filter. |
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Tony K.
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Yep. Certain bootleg retailers are banned, 'cause ANN doesn't wanna' contribute to their piracy. However, using the information from the readable part of the URL, I think this is the poster he's talking about: 
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Key
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Damn, did not know that was a bootlegging site. Sorry about that!
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Bango
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From a bystander's POV it was pretty funny. Broken link, I check the URL to see if it was a probable typo, then wha!? LOL.
Just to catch up here: -I'm mainly all about DLsite for stuff. I use Jlist too but not for doujin stuff. Though I do get a huge laugh out of some of the "doujin toys" I see advertised for their site. Most of my doujin stuff gets purchased in Japan and scanned for me, since there's no way I'm putting that stuff in the mail. By using a proxy for buying digital downloads, I actually meant giving somebody else the money to pay for it. I totally derped out there and should've used a better term. -As for Belldandy, yeah, she's a doormat. Not my type. But it was long, long ago when a nice bod and a pretty face was all it took to snare me. She's certainly less interesting than S****-who-happens-to-fit-one-of-my-known-charm-points. -I never even thought to look for gaijin cosplay porn (I pass on the live action Japanese version). Thanks. I'm going to see if they make that. They should. Why not? -Ah, the shoulder slip. Very nice. The whole time I was watching Denpa Onna to Seishun Otoko I was all like "Maaaaaaaan this artist totally has to have a shoulder fetish). I find, depending on other factors, it adds a sleepy look or a carefree look, both of which are very nice. -Mikasa's abs are an amusing point for me because I learned about them via fanart and manga shots but I don't remember ever seeing them in the show. I like many types of bodies and a fit or toned body is one of them, but too much muscle is a bit scary. For personality, I like the "determined" aspect of the tough girl but they usually take it into "perpetual macho" territory. If there's a "lightly tough girl" type I'd likely be all for it. Some random trivia on that, one of my own characters for a project started out as a guy in design, but as I write him more I felt I was writing a "light tough girl" instead of a dude, so he got redesigned into a she. Anyway, discussing this with a friend too got me to notice that the pairing is also of big importance to me. If the girl is suddenly with some faceless dude or supposedly-self-insert-disgusting-otaku I'm not nearly as cool with it as I am if it's a character that I could see the girl possibly getting with. Likely not a problem for Vaisaga and his method, so I'm a bit envious his superpower, but it actually does cut down on the doujin count quite a bit. Mainly because I'm not big on rape/mindbreak/etc and that seems to be what disgust-otaku and faceless dude specialize in. |
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Vaisaga
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I used to do that, but then I decided to cut out the middleman and just buy the stuff myself. Dlsite is quite easy to use, especially since you can use your Pixiv login for it. It also has an english site that, while it has less product than the Japanese one, still has the same layout so it can help you navigate the moon version. Melonbooks requires a few tricks to get the most of it, but it has stuff that Dlsite doesn't (and vice versa). It also lets you search by series while Dlsite always censors titles and character names for whatever reason.
Yeah, I heard it through word of mouth myself and didn't quite believe it (you don't see it in the show), but then there was this magazine spread. I don't mind some muscle myself, but her belly does stand out too much, especially since she's not muscular anywhere else. If she was consistently ripped I'd have less of an issue with it. Though really for AoT girls I only found Petra and Christa to be of interest in that regard. Armin in drag would be fine too 
Heh, well even my su-perv-powers have limits. I'd always rather have vanilla stuff (which makes having a nurse fetish so much suffering), and I'm quite selective with what I pick up. But there are times when novelty wins out. For example, there's a CG set of Kinuho and Maaya from Railgun. The art's decent and those two almost never get any attention so I picked it up despite it involving mind break and preggers (and worse). I just delete the unwanted images. |
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Key
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Quite a bit of it is, unfortunately, but not all. One of the hottest doujins I've ever come across was an original work which featured two stunningly sexy early-20s girls getting it on totally consensually with a guy who had the stereotypical otaku look but not in a creepy way. But yeah, I could also do without the mind-break, turn-into-a-sex-slave rape stuff. (And futanari. That just weirds me out so much that I can't appreciate anything else the title does.) Then, of course, there's the ero guro stuff, which thankfully is rare. Some things you see you just can't ever unremember. . . 
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walw6pK4Alo
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I don't know about everybody else, but I love ero Belldandy stuff, so long as the art is to my liking. AMG's been around a helluva long time, so that means the internet has collected several hundreds from throughout the 90s, but character designs at that time as well as general art in doujinshi (as well as typesetting) is just nothing but a sliver of what artists are capable of today, so it's usually the modern books I look through.
Usually what dictates my searching is more upon the artist in question than the characters or source material. Like, I'm not hot in Infinite Stratos, The Big Three, Touhou, or KanColle, but if a favorite artist of mine did a rather nice work something along those lines, I'd still be willing to a. look forward to it, b. check it out when it becomes available or I sometimes have it bought to be shipped and scanned, and c. edit it for English release. Guess I'll have to get used to KanColle though, it's been ensnaring hundreds of artists and probably will for the next two Comikets. Other times, I'll usually seek out works regardless of artist if it's Dragon Quest IV or V, so I'm definitely all about Manya, Minea, Flora, and Bianca, for Villetta Nu from Code Geass, and Garnet MacLaine from Dragonaut. Those last two have so little content as of late, but I appreciate what surfaces. |
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Key
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Yeah, there's definitely been a flood of KanColle stuff show up in the last 3-4 months, and it's only going to get heavier when the anime series hits in the summer season. But the game has a massive following (1.7 million players in Japan), so that's to be expected, I supposed.
Should be amusing to see what direction the SAO doujins go in when season 2 airs in the summer, since he plays with a female avatar this time around. Will they show Kazuto engaging in lesbian VR sex? Or will we see doujins of him being on the receiving end? |
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DuskyPredator
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I suspect futa, I do believe I saw something that already put him on the receiving end of that. But the H artists for SAO can be pretty cruel, there are a number of mind break stuff, Kirito is going to have to be careful. |
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Touma
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There is one titled "Ookami to Butter Inu" that you should look for if you have not read it. Holo is on the cover but it is mostly Norah inside. The artist is Toraya. This is off the topic, but I have gotten hooked on hentai for some characters from games that I have not seen. The two games that I have the most from are Dragon Quest and Samurai Showdown (or Samurai Spirits). I have never even seen those games. I think that I was probably introduced to them through fan art, most likely some Rule 34 stuff. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Which Dragon Quest? DQ3 tends to get a ton simply because artists can take those basic Toriyama designs, embellish them with their own touch (which is nearly always better, artists can make those women extremely beautiful), and impart any personality into them that they wish. It's very versatile for having a story go wherever you want. It's funny that between Toriyama-designed products, there's always new Dragon Quest material at every single event, but it's rare to see a well-drawn Dragon Ball doujin, and I kind of agree with Theron on them being some non-pretty characters when they're too close to the original designs, but it only needs some artist reinterpretation to work. And that leads into another realm of picking and choosing, do you like when artists adhere to the original designs or make them their own? On the other hand, it sucks when there's a character you like but there's virtually no art of them, even clean stuff. Why did Black Butler, a show squarely aimed at females, have to have one of the hottest women characters in Hannah? That means no one's going to even an omakebon of her, what a waste. Hell, there's only two non-yaoi doujinshi, and they're both with a sex-swapped Ciel. |
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Touma
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I think that I have something, doujinshi and/or fan art, for all of the games up to DQ8, but DQ3 definitely does have the most. I think that it probably has more than all of the others combined. The one with the next most seems to be DQ4. I have also accumulated quite a large collection for various Capcom games that I have ever played. |
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Vaisaga
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Yeah, sometimes I'll take a peek at something an artist I like has done, even if I'm unfamiliar with the series/character. My favourite artist is Kanna from the circle PLUM. Her artwork is amazing, naturally, and even though sometimes her stuff dips into the typical faceless gangbang territory it's never too bad. Over the course of her many Nanoha doujinshi there's a storyline about the unhealthy relationship between Fate and Chrono, where he not only sleeps with her, but 'loans her out' to other guys. One of those things where I'd like a translation to know just what's going on. Of course I most appreciate the fact that she does some really sweet Nanoha/Yuuno stuff. She's also done some really good Dog Days and Sword Art Online stuff. I just wish she'd post consistantly to Melonbook's dl store so I could buy them. It was actually a post on Pixiv for one of her Dog Days books that alerted me to the store's existance.
I'm pretty sure Kirito's GGO avatar is just girly looking, not actually female. SAO is one of those super popular series that gets lots of fan works based on novel material alone. So I'm sure we'd see stuff like you said by now. Though it is true that even more will flood in when the anime starts. I hope once the Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei anime starts airing we'll finally get art of the girls who aren't Miyuki. She has enough already. It is kinda funny to have your first exposure to something be hentai of it. Awhile back before it got an anime, all these Haganai doujinshi would pop up. It was pretty much all Sena so for awhile it was just "the series that has a girl with a butterfly hairpin" to me.
Yeah, I have that one. It's pretty good. Though since I haven't revisited that show in a long time, there's not much impact anymore.
It's even more baffling when it's shows aimed at males. Try to find some straight Tiger and Bunny or Valvrave hentai. There's some, but it's vastly out numbered by the amount of yaoi. Attack on Titan is the same (though the ladies do get plenty of art), and Buddy Complex is shaping up to be like that too. I touched upon this in the Wizard Barristers thread, but it really is interesting how you can see who a show is popular with by looking at what kind of hentai is produced for it. |
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Bango
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Regarding the faceless or ugly dude usually being a super rapist, that's one of the things I loved about the Stringendo/Accelerando/Stretta anime. It has a fat not-ugly-but-no-Fabio dude who's not scummy or dirty or a rapist. He just gets lucky (real lucky, A LOT) with a girl who likes him. I respect that.
It's cool you mentioned Kanna because my wallpaper just changed to one of her works (an absurdly drool-worthy non-H Nanoha/DogDays pic featuring Fate and Yukikaze) a few moments before I read your post. As for art adherence, of course if I like the original art I'd like for the doujin to follow it's style, and I'd never like it to stray so far that the character was no longer obvious. But there are cases where I do like some redesigns. Nekomamire for example is pretty well known for doing ultra badass versions of Nanoha characters. I don't like his H style and his actual art style isn't so much for me, but I do totally respect the badassedness of them. Actually, the artist who did my avatar, Ecell, did a pic of Shimakaze from Kantai Collection which I consider extremely hot. I'm not too keen on most Shimakaze content, but Ecell saw fit to give her a great midriff and award-winning hips/thighs. I really appreciate that. So I guess if I like the newer art a lot, then I can prefer it to the original even if it's already good. Man, it's good to hear of Samurai Shodown again. I loved that game and somebody on a site I go to just posted some cute Nakoruru x Haomaru H stuff by artist piyopiyomen. Nakoruru was one of my first anime girl crushes. Seeing Akira Toriyama's work in Dragon Quest was actually a shock to me because I started out with Dragon Warrior 1-4, where his art was nowhere to be seen. I still can't really picture it fitting the image I had of the series growing up, but I can face the facts easy enough that I "learned it wrong". But I do have quite a few doujins of 3 and 5. |
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