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ColonelYao47



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:28 am Reply with quote
I was helping out my friend at a New York comics festival called MoccaFest a few weeks ago. It turned out a colleague of mine recognized Rumiko Takahashi there (she didn't announce anything about making a trip) and managed to obtain a very nice sketch from her. I'm still in disbelief.
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maximilianjenus



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:34 am Reply with quote
a nitpick about the ranma paragraph, tendo-papa has 3 daughters not just one, even nitpicker he did not promise a specific daughter, ti was the sisters who pushed ranma into akane, though nabiki always seemed to be mildly interested in ranma.

and as much as I love maison ikoku and it being my favorite romance series I think ranma is takahashi's life work.
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Maidenoftheredhand



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:41 am Reply with quote
Rumiko Takahashi was my gate way drug. The Inuyasha anime/manga along with Ranma 1/2 manga are what pushed me into the fandom in the early 00's. Well my first was DBZ, but Takahashi started shortly after and sealed the deal.

Maison Ikkoku is definitely my favorite work of hers though.


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PurpleWarrior13



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:46 am Reply with quote
I actually have that video game. It was $7 on ebay, and I have my brother's old SNES, so why not? It's actually pretty fun, even if it does get annoying, and can come across as a cheap Street Fighter knockoff. The two player mode is so much more fun than the one player. I was playing as Ryoga in beginner mode, and while most of the characters were pretty easy, it took me about a half hour to beat Akane, and an hour and a half to finally beat Shampoo. Needless to say, I lost my voice, and my controller's lucky I didn't smash it on the floor. Even my brother, who is a very experienced and dedicated gamer, had a hard time with both of those characters.

I do love the anime though. It's one of my favorites, and I'm glad to see it still popular with younger anime fans. Heck, I'm 19, and I prefer older anime from that era. I don't care that the show itself or even the dub is older than me. I'd love to cosplay Ryoga at a convention.

Some anime fans swear by Maison Ikkoku, and while I think it is a great, realistic series, Ranma's just more fun IMO.
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Lord Geo



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:55 am Reply with quote
For me nothing tops One Pound Gospel, both the manga & OVA, but that's partially due to relative lack of familiarity with Takahashi's works. I've only seen bits & pieces of InuYasha, I remember seeing the Ranma fighting game on SNES when I was kid but have never read the manga or watched the anime, I read only the first few chapters of Rin-ne, and I've never seen any of her other works, minus OPG. Still, OPG is extremely well done, the comedy is funny, & even the boxing matches themselves are exciting; I really didn't expect Takahashi to know how to do boxing as well as she did.

That said, I will eventually buy that first BD set of Ranma 1/2 (that's all you really need to watch, right?), and I would buy those Rumic World OVAs if they ever got a DVD re-release. I'm interested in seeing more of her work, but like Mike said the biggest issue if the phrase "out-of-print". Really, for someone so iconic & popular it's surprising that so much of her stuff is OOP.
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Shay Guy



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:56 am Reply with quote
By my count, about 40% of all material posted on rec.arts.anime.creative was Ranma fanfic. Seriously. I checked the folder sizes in my archive.
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GTebbetts



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:59 am Reply with quote
I think...I think...that the "bullhorns" sign was one that really didn't have a meaning associated with it, according to Takahashi herself in an interview for her 35th anniversary as a mangaka. She apparently borrowed the expression and gesture from a manga done by an associate at Shonen Sunday, Shin Tamura, who was writing "Dekin-Boy" during the Urusei Yatsura run in SS.

Where Tamura got the expression...I'm not quite sure yet.

Section of the interview that the "Chudo~n!" expression was discussed (only in Japanese): http://natalie.mu/comic/pp/rumic35/page/4
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EricJ2



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:16 pm Reply with quote
maximilianjenus wrote:
a nitpick about the ranma paragraph, tendo-papa has 3 daughters not just one, even nitpicker he did not promise a specific daughter, ti was the sisters who pushed ranma into akane, though nabiki always seemed to be mildly interested in ranma.

and as much as I love maison ikoku and it being my favorite romance series I think ranma is takahashi's life work.


And how exactly is Soun Tendo a "lout"?
(Overemotional, perhaps, and sentimental bordering on overprotectiveness, but much preferable child-raising to Ranma's own upbringing.)
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Kikaioh



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:43 pm Reply with quote
Huh, I could've sword I'd read somewhere that the hand-gesture done by the characters in Ranma was actually a nod to Spider Man, which she liked a lot when she was in junior-high school. Though I guess I can't remember where I read it, but I thought she liked the way he shot out his webbing and decided to throw it into Ranma for fun.

Anywho, it's great seeing a write-up on the classic works of Takahashi. I kind of miss the days when she had such a huge influence/presence in the manga and anime scene, but her works still live on, and are still as fun and entertaining as ever.


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Fronzel



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:46 pm Reply with quote
I really like Maris the Choujo. For the most part it's a goofy '80s sci-fi comedy, but it becomes bizarrely, sincerely melancholy in places. An example; Maris needs money and sees a poster for a women's wrestling tournament (didn't someone at ANN write an article about '80s anime and women's wrestling?). She's successfully wrestled before although she hates doing it, so she swallows her pride and heads out, but when Maris arrives at the stadium, instead of launching into an energetic sequence of physical comedy, it has Maris find the place deserted and dilapidated; women's wrestling turns out to have been a fad which time has passed and she sits sadly amongst the wreckage with no where to go. She hated wrestling, but at least she was good at it, and now she doesn't even have that.

This odd quality is especially true at the end. Where other shows would end with a schadenfreude punchline when the protagonist absurdly loses their chance at the big payoff, Maris the Choujo seems to aim for the heartstrings instead in a montage of the alienation and loneliness Maris has experienced her whole life.

Lord Geo wrote:
For me nothing tops One Pound Gospel, both the manga & OVA...

I really like the One Pound Gospel OVA for a peculiar quality that it has; since the female lead is a nun and outright smacks the guy for his only overt advance, any question of if they'll hook up and when seems to vanish, and all that matters is how they're relating at any moment. Ignoring the future turns it into an interestingly pure piece about how two people interact.

This isn't true in the manga; she's a novice and hasn't taken her final vows yet and could choose not to. I'm pretty sure the OVA doesn't include that detail, which makes it so interesting.
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maximilianjenus



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:02 pm Reply with quote
one pound gospel also got a very enjoyable live action series.
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sakurahitagi



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:08 pm Reply with quote
I think I slightly prefer Urusei Yatsura over Ranma but I still really like both. I never could get into Rin-ne though.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:31 pm Reply with quote
The first Ranma 1/2 VHS tape, dubbed, was the first I ever bought and as a result the first anime I ever saw. I must have liked it as I'm still buying anime 16 years later.

About the first thing you see when you put the tape in was a preview for one of the Mermaid OAVs. Since it involved a child putting a man's eye out with his fingers it rather creeped me out. I never did look for the OAV.
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Shadowrun20XX



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:15 pm Reply with quote
Rumiko has brought some of the greatest characters to life. Through the action, comedy or tragedy and misadventure nearly everyone that will ever graze the anime field will have been affected by her in some way.

I had tapes upon tapes of Ranma 1/2 when I was a teen in 1993. The effects were like speed and bath salts. I would bite faces off to get more. MORE!

These days are gone with he ease of access in 2014.
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Waffitti



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:06 pm Reply with quote
Ranma 1/2 aired in Brazil in 2006 (tough it was originally meant to air in 2000) on Toonami, censored, at 1:40-2:05 in the morning. I didn't watch it (damn you parents that thought that Toonami was too violent! [tough it did allow CN to air raunchier stuff]). It did get aired uncensored late at night (not on CN though) alongside Love Hina, Trigun and Samurai Champloo. I didn't watch it (mostly due to a combination of not being able to stay up late and not knowing that it was airing). I only watched it years later when I found dubbed episodes on YT.

I never watched all of it, I wanted a clear resolution and was tired of the running in circles that seemed to go on forever. Looking back, the Shampoo episodes would be the last ones I'd ever watch again (Mousse is the only chinese character that still kinda sorta holds up). I don't know why, but I really like Hawaiian Kuno and Pantyhose Taro (nice designs I guess).

I haven't watched InuYasha since it first aired on Toonami. The dub was...odd. 40+ epsiodes in, Kagome's name was changed to "Agome" ("cago me" is portuguese for "shit myself") and subpar synching/mixing. The dub took a nosedive in quality during the third season: The dubbing studio had money problems, VAs were replaced, the studio's owner did VA for a lot of extras, names were changed, and, to top it all off, the last episodes were never dubbed.

I never cared much for the romance in the series (I never really cared much for InuYasha and Agome either, Sesshomaru and Miroku seemed more interesting to me), and the storytelling made the series feel like it was going someplace, avoiding the burnout feeling that Ranma gives.

Unfortunately the one-offs never were brought over here, they seem really interesting (and don't drag on forever). I'll try to find fansubs or something.
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