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penguintruth



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:46 am Reply with quote
They should animate that story, damn it.

Wait... let's see if I got this right. CCA originated as Hi-Streamer, then became CCA, THEN became Beltorchika's Children, right?
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:50 am Reply with quote
Maybe one day we'll get all of Tomino's novels and manga officially in English.

One day

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Yeah, I think High Streamer was the first run through Tomino did with the CCA scenario, then (a really big) I think he did one series of events with Beltorchika Children and another series of events with the movie.


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:52 am Reply with quote
Aww, I want to see Hi-Nu animated. That would be awesome.
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Kaioshin_Sama



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 1:56 am Reply with quote
Blah Gundam grumble grumble grumble, it's not what I want.

lol but seriously seems like a Gundam News day or something. This is a really obscure one though to be sure, the novelization of Char's Counterattack with the whole Newtype child messiah thing.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 10:42 am Reply with quote
The original Gundam Triology novels by Tomino are very good. 8,5/10
It was a realy militaristic and "seinen" take on the 0079 Timeline.
I would like more translations for sure. I hope that this manga is great. The Zeta remake Gundam Zeta Define is also i big win and is a must read for every Gundam Fan.
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residentgrigo



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 10:47 am Reply with quote
And yes penguintruth your are right. They wre produced and remade in that order. I love old school Gundam. A shame that Unocorn is so "shonen". But he action scenes were nice.
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Wrangler



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:34 am Reply with quote
Maybe the Gundam Origins will feature events of Beltorchika Children in it when it comes out. There suppose to be a Char focused mini-series on him before the revisioned series comes out.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 2:43 pm Reply with quote
Wrangler wrote:
Maybe the Gundam Origins will feature events of Beltorchika Children in it when it comes out. There suppose to be a Char focused mini-series on him before the revisioned series comes out.


Err considering that The Origin only focuses on the One Year War and some events prior to it I highly doubt that will be possible. I mean Beltorchika doesn't even appear until Zeta Gundam.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 4:22 pm Reply with quote
residentgrigo wrote:
The Zeta remake Gundam Zeta Define is also i big win and is a must read for every Gundam Fan.


Huh, for some reason, I was unaware of this. Zeta Gundam is my favorite Gundam series, I'd be interested in this if they brought it here.
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Krotchstak



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:41 pm Reply with quote
Ugh, really? Tomino's novels good? They may have some neat background info that was (until ORIGIN) depicted in nothing else, but the prose and story are laughably bad. They read more like an outline than a serious narrative. Blech. Give me the MSG TV series, movies, or ORIGIN over Tomino's novels any day.

Unicorn is incredible. Easily one of the strongest Gundam series thematically. It's not perfect, but it's still the best thing the franchise has released in well over a decade.

Although, it will certainly be interesting to see how this manga ties in to Unicorn, as it's claiming. I mean, Unicorn is a direct sequel to CCA already, and BC isn't that different all-told. How much more could they make it tie in?

penguintruth wrote:
Huh, for some reason, I was unaware of this. Zeta Gundam is my favorite Gundam series, I'd be interested in this if they brought it here.


Frankly, Zeta Define is nowhere near ORIGIN's quality. Yas is a far more talented manga-ka and does far more interesting things with the source material that he uses.
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penguintruth



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:48 am Reply with quote
Krotchstak wrote:
Ugh, really? Tomino's novels good? They may have some neat background info that was (until ORIGIN) depicted in nothing else, but the prose and story are laughably bad. They read more like an outline than a serious narrative. Blech. Give me the MSG TV series, movies, or ORIGIN over Tomino's novels any day.


But he makes up for it with all the space urination.

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Frankly, Zeta Define is nowhere near ORIGIN's quality. Yas is a far more talented manga-ka and does far more interesting things with the source material that he uses.


Well, nobody can really compete with Yas when it comes to Gundam. Usually not even Tomino.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:44 am Reply with quote
I would like to see an anime adaption for this one, of course with the original seiyuu (Ikeda & Furuya at least) reprising their roles. I personally did not like CCA that much and feel that it can do with a re-imagining/remake.

But for those who have read the novel, what's the difference(s) between the anime and the novel beside the mechas ?
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 11:31 pm Reply with quote
Majin Tenshi wrote:
I would like to see an anime adaption for this one, of course with the original seiyuu (Ikeda & Furuya at least) reprising their roles. I personally did not like CCA that much and feel that it can do with a re-imagining/remake.

But for those who have read the novel, what's the difference(s) between the anime and the novel beside the mechas ?


well there is hi nu and nightingale
beltorchika replaces chan and is pregnant with amuros kid and unlike chan she survives.
char literally gives amuro the psychoframe after fighting amuro in the re-gz.
hathaway kills quess
and the end dialogue between amuro and char is different when the psychoframe is overloading (char begins to regret his actions).

and among other things
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 9:01 pm Reply with quote
This is like the second piece of news on 'Char's Counter-attack' I've seen since I've been trying to get through 'Gundam-Z'. So of course I've already seen her character. I didn't know there were still stories that were being told.
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Krotchstak



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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:32 pm Reply with quote
The thing is, I'd rather have seen a Hi-Streamer manga, because that has a whole buildup to the events of CCA: early days of Londo Bell, Char's re-emergence, stuff like that. Legitimately new content. Does BC have that stuff too?

I'm just not sure that swapping around the lead mechs and adding the Belty subplot are really things worth getting excited over.
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