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daichi383



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 7:47 pm Reply with quote
Just started listening. Never thought i'd hear anyone talk about The Boondocks on here. Just a heads up, Season 4 so far is really hit and miss. The Breaking Bad parody episode had some great satire of the black hair care industry and is the best episode so far.

Also started watching Steven Universe after finding out what the funny cartoon Hope uses for her twitter avatar is. It's fantastic so far and i love it so much. It's ridiculous how much i love that show. The characters are great and i enjoy the writing a lot.

Also yeah, season 2 of Korra was pretty meh. The Wan episodes notwithstanding. I did enjoy the latter half of the season better but episodes 1-6 were horrid.
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Jave



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:20 pm Reply with quote
Incest is a common literally trope used all over the world throughout history. From Greek Mythology to Shakespere, it's one of the classics because it leads to so many storytelling possibilities Laughing And since Japan adores the Shakespereian tragedy-style of storytelling, makes sense to see it there.

Dunno how an anime can to 'too anime' Maybe a better word is 'too Japanese' Laughing Seems like all those hits in America are anime that features a Caucasian setting instead of a Japanese one. Bebop, Titan, Trigun. Seems like a case of ethnocentrism or xenophobia in play in what show can find mainstream success here.
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gedata



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:28 pm Reply with quote
daichi383 wrote:
Just started listening. Never thought i'd hear anyone talk about The Boondocks on here. Just a heads up, Season 4 so far is really hit and miss. The Breaking Bad parody episode had some great satire of the black hair care industry and is the best episode so far.


I agree, the 1st episode in particular felt like a retread of the R-Kelly and Usher episodes.

Also Jojoshi Powerhour FTMFW
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:13 pm Reply with quote
gedata wrote:
daichi383 wrote:
Just started listening. Never thought i'd hear anyone talk about The Boondocks on here. Just a heads up, Season 4 so far is really hit and miss. The Breaking Bad parody episode had some great satire of the black hair care industry and is the best episode so far.


I agree, the 1st episode in particular felt like a retread of the R-Kelly and Usher episodes.

Also Jojoshi Powerhour FTMFW


Yeah, I was not thrilled about that since we've essentially seen that episode already. This season has its moments, but it definitely dropped off in terms of quality. At this point I'm mostly just waiting for Stinkmeaner's appearance.
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Doodleboy



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 11:04 pm Reply with quote
The first season of Korra could've been good, it feels like a few mis-steps brought that story crashing down.

Korra is presented as an unbalanced character. Somebody who lacks spirituality and somebody who solves all her problems with violence. And she's in a city that is imbalanced and tearing itself apart.

If the bender, anti-bender story was presented with a little more nuance. If Korra realized that her role is an ambassador role and this wasn't a conflict you could punch away, then we could've had a great story that is faithful to the themes of the previous seasons while breaking new ground.

Instead Korra starts off a spoiled reckless coward and bully, and ends that way.

Ah well, enough with the nerd ramble. At least the animation was nice.
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ZorinBlitz



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 12:04 am Reply with quote
Who were they talking about on the first question? I can't spell his name and don't know who he voiced in any anime.
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PBsallad



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 2:40 am Reply with quote
@ZorinBlitz

Penguindrum Voice Actor Illich Guardiola Arrested in Texas
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Stuart Smith



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 3:06 am Reply with quote
I always found it odd to see people scoff at children's anime then turn around and unironically try to discuss literary integrity of shows like Stephen Universe. Not just specifically here, but elsewhere as well. I mean, I suppose if you're American you'll have more attachment to American shows, but it always seems a bit hypocritical that cartoons always gets a free pass. Especially if we're talking shows like Pretty Cure and Doraemon which are a bit more important to the animation industry for their genre defining merits compared to random Cartoon Network stuff.

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lkmjr



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 3:45 am Reply with quote
I have mixed feelings about the lack of Precure on western TV and streaming. On one hand, it would be wonderful if little American girls could experience Precure and love it the way I loved Sailor Moon as a little girl. On the other, Precure already has more than its fair share of creepy fans and I want to keep as much distance between it and the culture that produced Bronies as possible.

I think the window for making it work over here passed years ago, though. The first season was dubbed and aired in Canada in 2009 but didn't seem to go anywhere. Now it's just too long and those first few seasons are a little bit too dated. It's a shame; if someone had taken a chance on it years and years ago, it could be huge over here, and incredibly important in a time when animated heroines are few and far between.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 5:06 am Reply with quote
Greed1914 wrote:
gedata wrote:
daichi383 wrote:
Just started listening. Never thought i'd hear anyone talk about The Boondocks on here. Just a heads up, Season 4 so far is really hit and miss. The Breaking Bad parody episode had some great satire of the black hair care industry and is the best episode so far.


I agree, the 1st episode in particular felt like a retread of the R-Kelly and Usher episodes.

Also Jojoshi Powerhour FTMFW


Yeah, I was not thrilled about that since we've essentially seen that episode already. This season has its moments, but it definitely dropped off in terms of quality. At this point I'm mostly just waiting for Stinkmeaner's appearance.

I don't really follow with how Season 4 of the Boondocks has been more sub par compared to previous seasons.

The first three seasons alone already had episodes where the same plot or the same character or relation to that character was used. We've had a few Stinkmeaner episodes, a handful of episodes where Ed Wuncler the 3rd and Gin Rummy were in their robbery hi-jinks and and two-three episodes regarding a woman Robert Freeman is dating. That's not to say that makes the first 3 seasons any less great to watch. But at the same time, I'm not getting why all of a sudden that's a bad thing now. It doesn't bother me personally and I find this season just as amusing so far as the others. But to others, is it just that everyone's getting tired of the idea of the Boondocks occasionally even having recurring concepts with the same characters in some episodes and season 4 is just where everyone's tolerance is wearing thin? Or is it something else I'm not aware of?
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 5:37 am Reply with quote
Jave wrote:

Seems like all those hits in America are anime that features a Caucasian setting instead of a Japanese one. Bebop, Titan, Trigun. Seems like a case of ethnocentrism or xenophobia in play in what show can find mainstream success here.


It's expected different places having different tastes of course. People also prefer stuff they can more relate to, like Japanese relate to high school years as the best days of their lives. Though something exotic can capture people's attention as well, as Westerners are mystified by ninjas like Naruto, while Japanese are enamored with pirates like One Piece.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 5:54 am Reply with quote
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Incest is a common literally trope used all over the world throughout history. From Greek Mythology to Shakespere, it's one of the classics because it leads to so many storytelling possibilities Laughing And since Japan adores the Shakespereian tragedy-style of storytelling, makes sense to see it there.

Yeah,when I was watching OreImo I could definitely sense Shakespearean influences sneaking up at at unexpected places.
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taster of pork



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 5:57 am Reply with quote
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Also started watching Steven Universe after finding out what the funny cartoon Hope uses for her twitter avatar is. It's fantastic so far and i love it so much. It's ridiculous how much i love that show. The characters are great and i enjoy the writing a lot.
I'm loving Steven Universe also. Really wish they would release more then just one episode every few weeks.
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Sylpher3



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 6:26 am Reply with quote
I jotted down The Boondocks, Bob’s Burgers, Steven Universe, Adventure Time, Rick & Morty, the Regular show which were mentioned in the podcast to check out.
I don’t really keep up with American cartoons, so are there any other good recommendations? (No Airbender, Archer, Daria or MLP please)
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EyeOfPain



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 6:36 am Reply with quote
Stuart Smith wrote:
I always found it odd to see people scoff at children's anime then turn around and unironically try to discuss literary integrity of shows like Stephen Universe.

I'm only about halfway through the show, but I don't think anyone was saying Steven Universe should be held up as a piece of literature. Just that it's, essentially, a fun show that's well written.

I was glad to hear Zac mention Utena in the same breath as Steven Universe. The way Pearl moved in the fight scenes in "Steven the Sword Fighter" felt like they were pulled right from Revolutionary Girl Utena, and was actually the reason I finally sat down and watched The Apocalypse Saga.

Jave wrote:
Incest is a common literally trope used all over the world throughout history. From Greek Mythology to Shakespere, it's one of the classics because it leads to so many storytelling possibilities Laughing And since Japan adores the Shakespereian tragedy-style of storytelling, makes sense to see it there.

Okay, but 99% of anime is not Shakespeare.

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Dunno how an anime can to 'too anime' Maybe a better word is 'too Japanese' Laughing Seems like all those hits in America are anime that features a Caucasian setting instead of a Japanese one. Bebop, Titan, Trigun. Seems like a case of ethnocentrism or xenophobia in play in what show can find mainstream success here.

If you can't tell when something is "too anime," you might be watching too much anime... By the way, Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z, and less so Tenchi Muyo, were fairly popular when they aired, and all three have very Japanese sensibilities.
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