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tygerchickchibi
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:00 pm
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So, I don't know if anyone noticed, but....
The audio tracks used in the trailer doesn't seem like it was mixed. They sound like audition lines, so I don't think that the official version will sound like that.
It reminds me of the intro used in the Sailor Moon Stars singles for each character. They sounded pretty plain when they called out their transformation lines or did their attack lines.
I do think that the price is a bit expensive, but it reminds me of the Madoka Blu Ray combo with the soundtrack added to them. The OSTs still are pretty pricey ($30-$40, each, depending on the store). And the OST sold out twice in the US. I'd most likely invest in these because I like the OST and I'm okay with the goodies.
If you feel justified in saying no for the price tag, I don't blame you.
RokugoPeachMoon wrote: |
The point is that you have options when it comes to watching the show. If you choose neither because you feel that Aniplex of America owes you the show at whatever price you feel is appropriate, then that is a decision that can only be tied to yourself in terms of fault. No one is entitled to nor has the right to own these shows. |
But yeeaaah I agree with that. ^
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Top Gun
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:06 pm
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True, but when every other domestic anime company offers series for price point X (give or take), and here we have Aniplex offering shows for price points 2X or 3X, there's a general expectation that isn't being met, and I think that's more than worthy of complaint. As other people have said, there's nothing particularly inherent in Aniplex's releases that makes them 2 or 3 times superior to other distributor's products, and in fact some of their recent releases have been demonstrably inferior. So what exactly are we paying for here?
Someone earlier in the thread made an analogy to luxury cars that didn't sit quite right with me, and I think I've been able to puzzle out why. When we're talking about anime in general, there's no universal way of holding up show A against show B and declaring one of them as more "valuable" to own, since the "value" in this case derives from whichever show a given individual enjoyed enough to want to own. There are tangible reasons why a Ferrari is a better-manufactured car than a Kia, but those just don't apply to works of entertainment subject to individual subjective opinion. (I'm not saying that one can't look at anime with a critical viewpoint, but those views don't always correlate with what shows a person enjoys watching.) With that in mind, what Aniplex is doing is akin to a car manufacturer creating a certain model of car and charging a certain price for it...except for the red paint option, which has a price double that of any other color. There's nothing inherent about that paint color that should make it any more expensive; it's just an arbitrary mark-up. So if you happen to like red instead of blue, too bad, you're screwed.
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luffypirate
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:23 pm
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I don't think we should "expect" prices to be a certain way. Anime prices have always been all over the place, even in Japan.
edit: up until recently I've saw Aniplex prices as being that way because they essentially had repackaged JP discs for NA distribution. They are no longer doing that with the exception of the Monogatari franchise.
The prices are the way they are because they say so. Being one of the biggest publishers (if not THE biggest) they can charge what they want. They found a way to make money from NA and they seem to be sticking with it.
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Dfens
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 5:47 pm
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What you have to understand Aniplex is a business and if they can get more money for their product why the hell not if people are paying their price and it's working. Your telling me if you owned a business that provided goods or services you would charge less money when people are willing to pay your price just because you want to be nice and or that's what others charge? Yeah right! Everyone wants every single penny they can get whether it's the buyer or the seller.
Just because some people are upset and complain that hey well your competition charges less for a similar product why can't you be in line with their prices? Because they can.
Get it through your guys head if you don't like the price then don't buy it and move on. Their are other titles from other companies who are their to take your money instead vote with your wallet. We all have the freedom to choose what to spend our money on. But not the right to strong arm a company and force them to charge the prices we want to pay because we are entitled to it, because they owe it to us.
All day long at my job I get people who come in with a preconceived notion that it should only cost so much for the services we provide. Sometimes we are more and sometimes less then our competitors, but we charge the current going rate. So if a customer doesn't like my price then they are welcome to go somewhere else or do it themselves and if they screw up it's on them, not me who assumes liability when I take in a job.
My time, experience, and tools are worth money so unless I charge enough for the job at hand it's not worth the risk or liability for a cheap skate customers who wants to take advantage to save a buck.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 6:14 pm
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luffypirate85 wrote: | The prices are the way they are because they say so. Being one of the biggest publishers (if not THE biggest) they can charge what they want. They found a way to make money from NA and they seem to be sticking with it. |
It works because they have the solid gold anime everyone wants a piece of. Charge these prices for your scrap shows and no one bites, i.e. Galaxy Angel Rune and Super Robot Wars for Bandai Visual. Even as great as the Patlabor and Honneamise films were, they're still not the type of thing that people were going to shell out so much for in any kind of workable number.
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 6:38 pm
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RokugoPeachMoon wrote: |
TarsTarkas wrote: | Hard core fans will never go along with it, and Aniplex simply does not care. Aniplex is happy to 'milk' the hard core fans of their life blood, over and over until they are dried out husks. |
I love how the anti-AOA crowd implies that hardcore fans who buy the releases and have the audacity to disagree with their logic (entitlement) are "dumb, hypnotized sheeple" that desperately need to "wake up and see the error of their behavior".
Talk about being totally full of it...... |
If I actually meant what you said, wouldn't I be insulting myself. Sounds like you are just parsing a little bit of what I said, and ignoring the rest.
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DangerMouse
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 8:54 pm
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Joe_Sinister1 wrote: | You know i really can't help but notice how Nonon is NOT being voiced by Kari Wahlgren. ( though she's not too bad)
Not to mention Tabitha ST Germain would have been a perfect Satsuki. |
Yeah.
LOL
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jr240483
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 4:39 am
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Joe_Sinister1 wrote: | You know i really can't help but notice how Nonon is NOT being voiced by Kari Wahlgren. ( though she's not too bad)
Not to mention Tabitha ST Germain would have been a perfect Satsuki. |
unfortunately with these union/non-union rules ,there is no way both of them would be on the same casting lineup unless miss germain leaves The Ocean Group / Blue Water Studios and goes to new generation or become an independent VA like miss bailey,liam o brien or even mignona.
if that was the only scenario where it would have been she could have been called on to voice satsuki.
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fullmetalgirl21
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:21 pm
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I haven't seen Kill la Kill yet and was looking forward to the dub since I heard it announced, but it's looking like I'll have to go for the sub if I actually want to watch it anytime in the near future.
The funny thing is, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the price-point on the first release...until I actually paid attention to the details. I assumed it was a 13 (or some such) release, in which case the price would be a nice change of pace from AoA's usual price point.
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YotaruVegeta
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:07 am
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fullmetalgirl21, you've waited this long to watch it. Why not wait a little more to watch the dub?
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:25 pm
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YotaruVegeta wrote: | fullmetalgirl21, you've waited this long to watch it. Why not wait a little more to watch the dub? |
She's saying she doesn't want to pay the kind of money AoA is asking for it.
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fullmetalgirl21
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:34 pm
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What Tuor_of_Gondolin said.
Plus, who knows how long it'll talk for Aniplex to release it all at this rate.
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luffypirate
Joined: 06 Oct 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:26 am
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walw6pK4Alo wrote: |
luffypirate85 wrote: | The prices are the way they are because they say so. Being one of the biggest publishers (if not THE biggest) they can charge what they want. They found a way to make money from NA and they seem to be sticking with it. |
It works because they have the solid gold anime everyone wants a piece of. Charge these prices for your scrap shows and no one bites, i.e. Galaxy Angel Rune and Super Robot Wars for Bandai Visual. Even as great as the Patlabor and Honneamise films were, they're still not the type of thing that people were going to shell out so much for in any kind of workable number. |
I've bought every product from.the BVUSA catalog. Aniplex not so much. I still get the Monogatari releases.
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