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Princess_Irene
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That's really one of the worst parts about the book - it was mostly a pile of made-up fears, and people bought in to a dangerous degree. And I think it's fitting that you can point that out using a video game quotation - I doubt Wertham would have seen much good in them either. |
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I was thinking about this again, and even if you could extract the text and TV caption timing, and part of the process could be automated, it would very likely require some manual adjustments, like offsetting +/- some time to different sections of lines and manually reviewing/QA'ing everything again as there are usually some small, sometimes large differences between TV and BD master. Changed or additional scenes will definitely cause timing issues. I've also come across some slight timing differences between JP BDs and US BDs when trying to manually fit subtitles to different sources myself. The footage can be visually the same, but sometimes there can be slight delays in the blank/fade-in/out portions after the opening, or before if there's a prologue, or before/after intermission. This ends up causing subsequent lines to go out of sync +/- anywhere from ~500ms to 1sec but this is still very noticeable. The same potential pitfall applies going from TV to BD/DVD even if the timing for the animation itself remains the same. |
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Paiprince
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The Gundam series are masters to the anime to manga model. Yes, there are some that are just complete fluff but the majority of those are very intriguing side stories that delve on different parts which the anime source would and could not cover due to several reasons like time. Of course most will never get to do this since their properties are not as iconic as Gundam. As an aside, I notice most of these manga pick a more shoujo aesthetic as opposed to the anime original source. Makes me think many female mangakas may prefer to do projects like these before starting off on their own.
The US mainstream society these days really only pounces on controversial material on a visual basis hence we see things such as "graphic violence." There is also this biased belief that pure text media is free of exploitation, violation and pornography under some pretense that these adult stuff is used for intellectual literary basis. Quite laughable and goes to show the country's infantile attitude regarding literature. |
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mdo7
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Yeah well I never thought a good quote from an established video game franchise like Call of Duty would be a good fit to describe Seduction of the Innocent and the author who wrote that book. |
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Conner Crooks
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Just wanted to point this out in response to Jason's question--
It's solely up to individual company policies/vendors/booksellers to shrink-wrap specific books. That isn't something typically handled by publishers or their distributors. So in his case, it could be up to Barnes & Noble as a chain to decide that Berserk is to be shrink-wrapped, or perhaps even just that store. Just thoughts I'd share my two cents on it. Very interesting topic, though, especially in the juxtaposition of literary smut. 
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Hellfish
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I got a good laugh out of this quote I really did 
Sometimes I feel the older the medium, the less people give out a damn if it's "corrupting" the youth. Books already had hundreds of years to sort out scandals and inmorality acusations, sure you will have people complaining about individual books but I am not seeing huge campaigns of rating and censorship sprouting again anytime soon. And I don't think I remember the last time a huge ruckus was made about nudity, sexual and other questionable content was made in old paintings. Film already pased trough the Hays code and most people in general seem to be already used to the idea that not all movies are or have to be appropiate for all ages. Comics is an odd case, they are not young by this time but I guess the fact that they are not as ubiquiotus as film, books and tv in popular culture means they are still vulnerable to people ignoring they aren't all for kids I guess, I guess manga suffers double because even if it's not really new it's international presence is still quite recent, but still seems most publishers tend to go "better safe than sorry" in terms of ratings. Last edited by Hellfish on Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:46 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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mdo7
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Oh yeah I forgot to point that out, is it OK for me to laugh at that comment about "porn is bad, but not as bad as illiteracy".
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katscradle
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Depends on where you live. The American Library Association's Office of Intellectual Freedom keeps track of reports from libraries, schools, the media and other individuals on attempts to ban books in communities. The most popular complaint is usually "sexually explicit". http://www.ala.org/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/statistics Fifty Shades of Gray was #4 on the Top Ten List last year (2013). As for a personal experience my sophomore literature class in high school couldn't read all of Catcher in the Rye in class because there is a chapter with a prostitute. So the teacher told us "to read that on our own if we felt like it." I also live in a different state now where an academic book on manga caused a firestorm several years ago and ended up out of the county libraries all together. (My library here practically has no manga at all in fact. Special requests if other libraries have a book require paying a fee.) So people where I've been and live in the U.S. care quite a bit about what their children read. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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The subtitling thing is interesting, because after several years of constant anime watching, I actually prefer watching my Western stuff with subtitles on as well, just to make absolutely sure I never miss a word. Guess it's just another one of those idiosyncrasies Japan does when they're left out.
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One-Eye
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So, its the individual chains that are shrink-wrapping stuff or are they requesting from publishers that it be shrink-wrapped and chains also footing the bill for it? I'm not trying to contradict what you are saying, but it just seems odd because I've seen things in B&N that I would expect to be wrapped and it hasn't. At the same time about 1/2 of my Dorohedoro manga from VIZ that I purchased from RightStuf is shrink-wrapped (its still in its wrap btw), and I think all of my Saikano bought thru RS was also shrink-wrapped,which is weird as I don't understand why RS would shrink-wrap it. I know Dorohedoro has an explicit content label on it, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but still its being sold online not thru a B&M. |
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EricJ2
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...Aw, I thought this column was going to be about Cartoon Network!
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Makeinu
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Sadamoto's Evangelion and various Gundam adaptions aside: What are everyone's favourite manga based on established properties?
I always have to laugh when that line of thought is attributed to some video game badbutt, since Orwell did all the heavy lifting decades ago:
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Agent355
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It's interesting that while there is plenty of moral panic around books, it usually takes the form of campaigns against individual books instead of an overall campaign for rating books. And maybe publishers should consider rating books, at least young adult books that may be read by younger children who have a high literacy ability but still have an immature emotional capacity. Help parents decide which books are best for their kids, and avoid people picking on individual (usually popular) books.
It kinda gets glossed over in discussions against censorship (understandably), but it's hard to monitor a child's media consumption, and yet it *is* extremely important that parents and educators do so. Exposing a child to explicit material can be traumatic, and is a recognized form of child abuse. I feel like most people have an attitude along the lines of "I was exposed to (XYZ) as a kid and I came out fine," which is akin to "I was spanked as a kid, and I came out fine"--I'm sure you did, but not all kids do. Why potentially cause life long damage? Edit: I'm not an expert in child psychology, and maybe "life long damage" from explicit media exposure, absent other forms of abuse, is an exaggeration. But it has been shown to have a negative affect. Why cause a child pain and confusion? Being exposed to extreme violence or explicit sex early in life doesn't do any good. |
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GVman
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At an acquaintance of mine's high school, you apparently got put on a list if you ever checked out Catcher in the Rye because a few folks who went on shooting sprees had read it.
I do, but that's because one of 'em was based on the original concept of the show. |
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Alan45
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@One-Eye
At Barnes and Noble you can't be sure of what was initially shrink wrapped since people have no hesitation in removing it so they can sit on the floor and read the volume. I think it is likely that both Viz and Dark Horse decide what titles of theirs are shrink wrapped. I get mine through the local comic shop via Diamond and they come shrink wrapped when appropriate. Dark Horse often has the sticker under the wrap, though it is not hard to get off. Diamond doesn't shrink wrap anything else that I know of so I doubt they are responsible for doing it to manga. |
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