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Stark700



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:28 pm Reply with quote
I missed the Anime Expo this year but might give it a try in the future. Seeing Nana pop up in this article just gave me a smile. I'm hoping the manga series will come back someday Anime cry
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:37 pm Reply with quote
Atsuko Ishizuka did No Game, No Life? Oh wow, she is one to keep an eye on. Though in the interest of fairness I'll point out that she also directed Pet Girl of Sakurasou . . .
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:39 pm Reply with quote
Thanks for this week Answerman, the spanish dub part was very interesting to read. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:46 pm Reply with quote
I hear Spanish dubs tend to be a lot better than most English dubs in terms of execution, translation, directing, voice work, and lack of censorship, but I have a hard time believing some of those claims.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:54 pm Reply with quote
As an older anime fan that still likes going to conventions I too have faced the issue that while I still enjoy them I do not enjoy them nearly as much as I used to. Right now I also unfortunately cannot afford to go to one but before then I did decide to try out volunteering for a convention and found the experience to be great. I still had the time to do the little I wanted to at the convention plus get to be a part of some of the behind the scenes stuff that I am always interested in. I may not know when or where I may be able to go to another convention but I will make sure to try to be a volunteer for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:00 pm Reply with quote
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then you're probably no longer someone who would enjoy an anime convention.


I might still enjoy the con scene, but just not there. I'm primarily likely to go to AX, based on the GOH list, and it just wasn't cutting it for me this year. [It seems like Japan Expo is becoming the Cali con for GOHs. Though PMX also occasionally announces interesting guests.] Plus, I'm still pissed that I was forced to wait in an endless line last year, in spite of pre-registering, because some a-hole had to pull a bomb scare. The Long Beach location was the best for this kind of thing, because it's spacious, and the fast food joints aren't that far away by foot. OTOH, I'm not sure how many people they can still cram into that DTLA building before it becomes a fire hazard.

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I would honestly consider committing a minor crime so that I could spend the weekend in jail rather than go back there.


Yeah, I hear SDCC is the worst, nowadays. Laughing

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(I'll admit his series Freedom was a lowlight.)


I liked Freedom, but I can understand why people had issues with it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:19 pm Reply with quote
I was hoping the new dragon ball blurays would include the Mexican Spanish dub. It's the best and I feel the same about Ranma 1/2. I also grew up watching anime in Spanish way before I saw any in English and I loved it. I sent in the same question before and it never got picked but I'm glad to have an answer now
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Lactobacillus yogurti



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:20 pm Reply with quote
As a Latin American fan, I can tell you that people with TV networking rights don't care about making anime DVDs because of an economic and a sadly traditional factor: A lot of people consider cartoons childish, and anime/manga is reviled and considered Satanic, so that's why we have to resort to bootlegs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:22 pm Reply with quote
FireChick wrote:
I hear Spanish dubs tend to be a lot better than most English dubs in terms of execution, translation, directing, voice work, and lack of censorship, but I have a hard time believing some of those claims.


Well I can't claim if Spanish dub is better or not (I've seen some that doesn't sound good, usually the one from Spain. The Latin America one tend to sound better). But I know anime shown in Latin America are shown on uncut from what I was told, anime censorship in Latin America is rare and not widespread unlike in North America.

Extra note (and off topic): I've seen Spanish dubs of Korean and Taiwanese dramas (yes those dramas get shown in Latin America), and comparing them to Vietnamese dub (which I would watch with my mom) of K-dramas/Taiwanese dramas. After viewing both dub, I always thought the Spanish dub of K-dramas sounded way better then the Vietnamese dub in term of voice fitting, execution, timing, and fitting close to the original.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:39 pm Reply with quote
FireChick wrote:
I hear Spanish dubs tend to be a lot better than most English dubs in terms of execution, translation, directing, voice work, and lack of censorship, but I have a hard time believing some of those claims.


Why ? I saw Captain Harlock in the early eighties in spanish in south america and it wasn't censored. The US has been traditionally more censor happy when it comes to children programming than most south american countries or even *gasp* european countries (there are of course notable exceptions, freaking France being one of those).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:00 pm Reply with quote
FireChick wrote:
I hear Spanish dubs tend to be a lot better than most English dubs in terms of execution, translation, directing, voice work, and lack of censorship, but I have a hard time believing some of those claims.

There are some bad Spanish dubs, but in general, I would say, yes, they are better.

The Spanish studios just have so much more experience because of all the dubbing work they get. Not only has anime been getting dubbed for a super long time, but American movies and TV series get dubbed as well. So what you get is a robust industry with never-ending work, and voice actors who have been in the business for decades. Basically the exact opposite from what you have here in the U.S.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:06 pm Reply with quote
dtm42 wrote:
Atsuko Ishizuka did No Game, No Life? Oh wow, she is one to keep an eye on. Though in the interest of fairness I'll point out that she also directed Pet Girl of Sakurasou . . .


I for one liked Sakurasou. NGNL was a tough watch for me though. Still don't understand why it's stupid popular.

Anywho, anime cons are now virtually glorified parties. My one main gripe are those who come just for the "social" scene. You see those dudebro types who obviously don't belong prowling and checking out the cosplayers as if everyone doesn't know what they're there for.. If that ain't sleazy I don't know what is.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:23 pm Reply with quote
That reminds me of my Sentai release of HenNeko. They blatantly got a character's name wrong on the back cover. I also have the Shangri-La SAVE set, and I'll have to check again to see if it has that error that was talked about.

Other than that, I've never remembered any typos in the subs on a Funimation release. I think Clannad had a few typos for Sentai. And lastly, the $150 Gurren Lagann set from AoA is fraught with typos and awful translations. I was told AoA at least back's up their price with quality, but I guess I was misinformed.

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Atsuko Ishizuka did No Game, No LifeThough in the interest of fairness I'll point out that she also directed Pet Girl of Sakurasou . . .


Imo, Sakurasou had the most irritating cast of characters I've ever seen. It's amazing I still saw that show through til the end. I don't know if the character department falls entirely on the director, though, but boy if it does I'll be wary of her from now on.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:24 pm Reply with quote
"Grandpa need his sleep, dammit."

ahahaha Laughing just wait till you ARE a grandpa, honus.

I'm sure some of Justin's take has to do with having to work at some conventions... but just like anything, if you are doing them for fun, familiarity breeds contempt.
There's a bit of it's all been done before mixed with your own changing point of view as you gain more life. [or is it lose more life? I get that mixed up Wink]

Just like the anime or manga burnout, con burnout can lead to the horror of reassessment. Why am I doing this again. And then? MIX IT UP. Find other things that are fun about going.
I go to the aforementioned hell called SDCC, and find it very enjoyable after all these years, but some people no longer do. It happens. But importantly my goals have changed a bit, and I mostly go to meet other friends that also go. I'm no longer willing to wait in the Hall H line, even now that they have the tents. There was a moment 10 years ago when whatever they were discussing/previewing was really important, and was worth killing most of a day waiting for it, but that moment has passed.

so I found other reasons, other things to do. IF the con is something that you have to travel for, have you ever even seen some of the rest of town that it's in? Have you tried the restaurant that are farther away than the crowd will go?

I've never been to AX, and probably won't because I'm one of the lone anime/manga people in my group anyway... but I'm betting that there are other things to see/do in LA that would make the time you spend at AX worthwhile, because you will be away from it for part of the time.

Mix it up, take a year off, find one thing that you absolutely HAVE to see, and don't feel guilty if you have to miss 3 others... most importantly remember that you are ON VACATION, even if it's just for the weekend...
makes it a lot easier to deal with that interesting different country called the convention.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:27 pm Reply with quote
A newer name I've been looking at is Hiroshi Ikehata. He apparently started off as a GIF animator but eventually become an episode director for shows like Gurren Lagann, Big Windup!, Hayate the Combat Butler, & Accel World, with anime fans who follow stuff like sakuga & the like praising Ikehata's general style; AniPages even compared him to Hiroyuki Imaishi back in 2009 or so.

As of right now, Ikehata has only had two series director roles in his resume. His directorial debut was in 2011's Ring ni Kakero 1: Sekai Taikai-hen, which remains unsubbed in English & absolutely ignored (sadly), and one of best things about that (as of now final) season of RnK1 was the visuals. Ikehata gave Sekai Taikai-hen a lot of energy in the visuals & absolutely delivered on the old-school style of the original 1977-1981 manga. Essentially, Ikehata took what Toshiaki Komura did visually with Ring ni Kakero 1: Shadow the previous year & not only ran with it but also gave it slightly more. I wish Ring ni Kakero 1 had some more appreciation here in North America, because I'm sure people would love these last two seasons if they were subbed into English (Shadow's 1st half is fansubbed, but that's all after the first two seasons).

Ikehata's other directorial position was actually this year with Robot Girls Z. Though the series was about turning Toei's classic super robots into young girls, Ikehata didn't simply rely on cheap fanservice or "moe-ization", though there was some fanservice joking. Instead, he gave RGZ so much sheer energy & visually had his animators have an absolute ball; I've seen some really in-depth blog posts about the visuals of RGZ that I can't do justice to here. Needless to say, Robot Girls Z was tons of fun to watch.

Since RGZ, Ikehata has also worked on last season's Black Bullet as assistant director, so I'll be giving that show a watch at some point; even if it isn't technically an Ikehata show, it should hopefully still deliver visually. I say Hiroshi Ikehata is another name to look out for in the future.
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