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EricJ2
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And because the 90's DiC Sailor Moon (ahem, still  ) symbolizes our intolerant fears of commercial mainstream dubs, and now they've fixed it for the DVD/Blu-ray era.
It's progress for a new generation, to let us know how far the fandom's come, in the form of poetic justice. Now, on to inspiring Discotek to do a new Card Captor Sakura dub! |
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Animegomaniac
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I agree with everything he said... and still would rather have the DIC dub. Also, the fandom has gotten stupider. Poetic justice, it's a franchise that is in the process of throwing itself back up so ... business. Someone tell ADV that their Sailor Moon revival was years too early or too late, it's amazing how these things work. And when the manga was rereleased just a few years ago, it's success was a single, one off fluke and not a precursor to the anime's revival? I recently bought Familiar of Zero and now it's Louise as Sailor Mars or Sailor Mars as Louise. As Sailor Mercury, it's Saber and not much else [various Bleach and Naruto roles omitted because I just don't care]. To put the problems with this dub simply, it's cast from a very shallow talent pool. It's not just obviously "so and so", it's abundantly them. Did anyone direct Michelle Ruff to think "overbearing nanny" {... is there where the English accent came from? Sarcasm or directorial insight, take your pick} or, at the very least, "cat"? Sure, if you want to cast someone for hundreds of episodes, cast people who have done hundreds of episodes, I get that idea. On the other hand, there's this thing called a "rut"; If they sound this bored now, how will they sound in a hundred episodes? As someone clearly pointed out earlier, there's a major cheese factor going on in this series and good cheese demands good ham, it's only natural {4Kids, Dan Green, loved it, always will. "My grandfather's deck has no weak cards!" ... he's not your grandfather though... and Koribo...}. And if you can only get Todd Haberkorn to respond as "villain" and not "villain" then something has gone horribly... dull. |
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KENZICHI
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Did you really just ask this? But the dub is okay. Mars' voice is a great match, but it just sounds like she's talking. No emotion at all in this clip. Mercury sounds good too. Still not used to Moon's voice. I think it'll annoy me sometimes; I'm still not used to it. Either way I'm buying this. |
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TsukasaElkKite
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All I can hear in Ami's voice is Sakura from Naruto. I did rather like that Cristina pronounced Rei's chant correctly.
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TheOtakuX
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[quote="KENZICHI"][quote="Psajdak"]Wtf is with this site, and so much people caring about dubs?[/quote]
Did you really just ask this? But the dub is okay. Mars' voice is a great match, but it just sounds like she's talking. No emotion at all in this clip. Mercury sounds good too. Still not used to Moon's voice. I think it'll annoy me sometimes; I'm still not used to it. Either way I'm buying this.[/quote] Why not? It's a valid question. People who think this new dub is any better than the original (terrible) dub seem like they're just lying to themselves. |
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ChibiRob
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In general the voices seem good... the acting on the other hand... kinda rough... really rough...
Luna, her VA is very good but just doesn't fit. Mercury... sigh.. poor Mercury... 
Mars, never liked Mars so she can be a 40 pack a day trucker for all I care 
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penguintruth
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Sounds pretty decent. Doesn't really hold a candle to the original Japanese, but (and by now this should go without saying, but apparently there are still nostalgia freaks) definitely exponentially better than the old SM dub.
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KENZICHI
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But that's not even what they were saying. It was more like 'why do you even care about this?' Why does anyone care about anything? Because they're genuinely interested. And I don't even know how your comment relates lol. Last edited by KENZICHI on Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:00 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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ThatGuyWhoLikesThings
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There are many...not-so-complimentary words I can use to describe that statement right there, but I'll try to be as nice as I possibly can right now, as I'd rather not get banned. Get that elitism checked, eh?
ANYWAY~, I think the dub is decent enough so far based on what's been shown, but a few clips aren't enough to say for certain yet. I need to hear entire episodes. We've barely heard Rei and Ami, and we haven't heard Makoto and Minako at all yet. |
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TJ_Kat
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Hate to break it to the "they sound too old" folks, but it's not at all uncommon for girls' voices to have matured by 14. Most of the (14 year old) girls in my son's class could easily pass for 20+ over the phone.
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Hitokiri Kenshin
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I think they're ok. As for age sounding, if they wanted authentic, they would've got young girls a la Peanuts and Hey Arnold. As for the old dub, many watch that like they watch an American cartoon. Many older dubs' fans watch them more like that than they do a modern anime.
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Apashi
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Okay I'm chiming in because I just can't stand people hating on dubs because they think they know better. Newsflash: Dubs CAN be more accurate than subs. Are you fluent in Japanese? Is it your native language? Are you bilingual? If you answered yes to any of those questions than this isn't for you. I only know a little Japanese but I can assure you that the cadence is quite different than English and if you aren't familiar with it than you won't hear it. Watching anime doesn't qualify. You either have to learn in a classroom, talk to Japanese people, or move to Japan.
Also anyone and their mom can make a fansub. I can tell you from experience that they tend to be inaccurate. Unless you know Japanese you won't realize it. Heck I'm sure I don't at times. There are things that can't ever be translated without knowing. Tones of voices in dubbing really help with the accuracy. And the wonderful English-speaking actors put just as much effort into their work as seiyuu. More or less the same amount of emotion. Of course it depends on the dub. It's hard to draw any sort of conclusion from these short clips but I like it so far. It's different from the Japanese yes, but that's because it's in English. This time it's in my native language. It's been translated and approved by those who are fluent in Japanese. All of these factors lead me to believe I will understand things much better than when I watched the fansub with pretty karaoke styling. x3 Citations: I've been watching anime since 1998. Yes, I was there for the horrid Dic "dub". |
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jr240483
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even i have to admit that much and i am a die hard moonie fan. though considering how much i got use to how the DIC cast said it, its a gimmme. Also the casting sounds fine, unfortunately higgins as ami definitely sounds weird. Makoto or Haruka when S and Super S comes around but definitely not ami. and having natsu's voice as jedite definitely dont sound menacing enough. |
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rainbowrabbit
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Who says all 14 year-olds have to sound a certain way? That's unrealistic. I sounded nothing like my age when I turned 13. But I will agree with you about Mercury. I don't like the way this voice actress portrays her. I did hear some unflattering things about the way she presented herself at AX and something about her not studying Aya Hisakawa's take on the character. I don't know. I wasn't there. So I'll let someone else comment on that. I too voiced concerns elsewhere about her "Sabão Spray" attack getting renamed. But I remember it being called "Bubble Spray" since the Pioneer/ADV subtitled releases. So while I don't like it, it's one of those things I've learned to tolerate over the years. Just like I'm currently doing with "guardian." (My last mention on that.) For the most part, I do like it. I'm still not sure if I'll be getting the DVDs though. I got bills to pay. |
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supersqueak
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I am surprised that more people aren't aware of it yet. I use it all the time to look at British and Canadian Netflix. I thought everyone was using it. |
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