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jdnation
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I'm not big on Yuasa's design stuff, but he is a very good animator. Look over on professional animator websites and blogs and they are really into Yuasa!
The appeal is mostly from those within the industry & fans of animation as an artform, rather than mainstream audiences. His loose animation style has a lot of freedom and interesting perspectives. It breaks the mould and manages to be something refreshingly different with a lot of energy which makes it stand out from the typical mould of mainstream anime. Indeed it is a matter of taste, and also depends on how long you've been involved in animation. If you asked me ten years ago whether I'd have liked a show like this, I'd have been put off by the animation. But after a long time I've seen so much animation that I yearn for something different and now actually do appreciate shows like Ping Pong and Mind Game. For one thing his style also matches the them of the work. Mind Game is a bat-shit crazy story with ridiculous scenes and characters. It honestly wouldn't work as well, or rather come off with the same expression if you approached it in the same way as a typical mainstream presentation. The same for Ping Pong. A series about table tennis would come off as rather dull, but the animation style and presentation gives it a flow and energy that makes it really gripping in visual form. Perhaps wait a few years and watch what you like and revisit Yuasa's work awhile from now. You might find you actually developed a palate for it! |
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dudebro
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It's not just the art that counts, but also the script, animation, imagery, composition and direction.
He messes with perspective on purpose. Also, here's a scene from Samurai Champloo that he animated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TDu8kiz7Jo |
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TrailOfDead
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that kind of makes it sound like the only explanation you'll accept is from someone who agrees with you, but here
basically it's cool for creators to do what they want to do and it's lame and boring for them to just try and make a product that will sell |
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AnimeKnight2034
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It's just characteristic of how the show looks overall. It goes off model ALL THE TIME.
Wellllll, I personally don't care for either of those  . But yeah, I'm just saying that sales is representative of the amount of fans one has. His stuff does NOT sell. That means he doesn't have a lot of fans. But on the Internet I see lots of stuff saying he's currently one of the best guys working in the business. If that were true, wouldn't he have more fans? Look at Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan. 2 of the best. Lots of fans. These people are trying to argue that random schlub who can't sell many jerseys is one of the best players in the game. The cream rises to the top.
That's fine. I'm all for people taking stuff like this less seriously. I just get frustrated when people get all serious and call him one of the best in the biz. It's BS and should be called out.
Berserk looks terrible. So that's not shocking he worked on it. People might not like my favorite art style, but at least it sells. So I can back it up when I say "people like this art" when someone goes on some anti-moe rant. Can you do the same? Not really. That's why this is so silly. They argue that his art style is better, but if it was, it'd sell at least a bit more.
Oh please, stop it with the high horse. This is exactly what I'm talking about. I've watched plenty of anime. His stuff still sucks.
Nah I just put that out there to save people from responding with the usual trite about me not getting it. I think this thread has been fairly free of stuff like that so I"m glad I put that disclaimer there.
Who say's that other artists DON'T create what they want? No, I mean clearly only Yuasa is the only ARTISTE in the industry because his stuff doesn't sell and looks different. Being different for the sake of being different isn't a good thing. But all the guys who make popular shows can't also be possibly ARTISTS as well who just so happen to make things that actually resonate with fans. |
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Doodleboy
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Well I already told you why he breaks model. He hires animators like this guy http://bahijd.tumblr.com/, I'm pretty sure he can stay on model if he wanted to. It's a choice and faithful to the manga that inspired the series (read it, the mangaka does crazy things with the Dragon/Peco match and it's awesome). Aren't those people fans? I mean he clearly has fans in the animation industry. He got hired to direct an episode of Adventure Time. Ping Pong aired on the NoitaminA block, which is pretty damn prestigious. And I still think you're looking at sales the wrong way. What does it take to sell an anime in Japan? Well an adaptation of a popular light-novel, with faithful adherence to the point of being clunky. Cute moe girls doing cute things. Otaku-pandering... Notice how story doesn't enter the equation? Yeah of course Yuasa's shows which specially avoids having cute moe girls, which doesn't adapt light novels, which isn't about otaku won't sell as well to that market. SAO, K-ON!, Haruhi and Mahouka are huge sellers in Japan... and sorry to those who like those shows. But I don't see those as the cream of the crop of the medium at all. Hell there was an article out recently on how Pokemon outsells Ghibli. Ghost in the Shell is an anime movie that is considered a classic today, and is still pretty top grade animation. Ghost in the Shell sold like craappp when it came out and only did well in the american market. Mamoru Oshii's films are still are not top sellers. Doesn't make his films any less beautiful or complex. So cream of the anime being the top sellers? Not really. |
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dudebro
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Storyboarding doesn't mean he's in charge of the art. He storyboarded episode 7 of Photo Kano, but it still has the same art as the rest of the series. I can't actually find any information on him storyboarding that movie, but the point still stands. |
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TrailOfDead
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I didn't say it was bad to resonate with anime fans, although they've got shit taste in general
I just mean it's not worth caring about is all! |
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