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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:05 pm Reply with quote
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Apparently, only two days have passed in the Naruto world.

How do we know this? I'd have thought at least a couple of weeks. oO

I mean, there have been an awful lot of battles in several venues that seem like it would be hard for the same characters to bounce around to in just 2 days. Which episode(s) was the end of the first day?

This also makes spoiler[Orochimaru's timing in finding Tsunade] waaaaay beyond extraordinary, since he had to get spoiler[resurrected from the dead and listen to story time] and, again, do a lot of traveling, in one day?

I've seen all the episodes, but I don't remember a lot of what I've seen, nor have I given much thought to constructing a timeline, so maybe it could happen. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:27 pm Reply with quote
I know, right? I could hardly believe it's only been two days. But the 2nd day is still going... I had to double check. (See here and here.)
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:10 pm Reply with quote
Hmm, maybe Naruto isn't the only one who can make multiple shadow clones...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:07 pm Reply with quote
Gina Szanboti wrote:
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Apparently, only two days have passed in the Naruto world.

How do we know this? I'd have thought at least a couple of weeks. oO


We know this because the story has been constant without any real time lapses and we've only seen night once.

As far as travel goes, the area covered in Naruto is relatively small. They do travel to nearby countries pretty quickly on foot. The ninja world map is just a small section of the globe, not the entire planet.

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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:56 pm Reply with quote
Emerje wrote:
We know this because the story has been constant without any real time lapses and we've only seen night once.

That only tells me they chose to show night once, not that it was the only night to occur (even if it was, that's not the proof). I haven't seen every night of Naruto's life (barring the time skip) in the last 500+ episodes... wait, maybe I have and just didn't realize it. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:44 pm Reply with quote
Gina Szanboti wrote:
Emerje wrote:
We know this because the story has been constant without any real time lapses and we've only seen night once.

That only tells me they chose to show night once, not that it was the only night to occur (even if it was, that's not the proof). I haven't seen every night of Naruto's life (barring the time skip) in the last 500+ episodes... wait, maybe I have and just didn't realize it. Smile


It was explicitly said that the first day ended when Naruto killed the White Zetsu-Neji in the Medical Tents and when he went after Obito and the Jinchurikis.

After that the only thing seen was Naruto fighting against Obito, and how that battle progress to the point where we are now, where is seen the day going from morning to night.
Is already bad to think that their fight spanned almost 24 hours, they shouldn't even be at night of the second day, so thinking that days were skipped is ridiculous!

Why would people think that it took more time than that? It was pretty obvious that everything happening in all of those chapters were moment things that don't take that much time.
Battle against the white zetsus and Clones, Naruto arrival and fight against Obito, other combatants arrival to help Naruto, Sasuke and Hokages arrival, ...
Nothing of those things took that much time.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:55 am Reply with quote
Maybe i should start watching Naruto afterall. I've only seen 16 episodes or so. xD 500+ to go...
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TheMorry wrote:
Maybe i should start watching Naruto afterall. I've only seen 16 episodes or so. xD 500+ to go...

Instead of thinking watching all the episodes you haven't seen that have been produced so far, I'd suggest thinking of dividing your viewing in terms of arcs within the story. Watch an arc or two full of episodes at a time, take a break and then come back.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:28 am Reply with quote
Hypeathon wrote:
TheMorry wrote:
Maybe i should start watching Naruto afterall. I've only seen 16 episodes or so. xD 500+ to go...

Instead of thinking watching all the episodes you haven't seen that have been produced so far, I'd suggest thinking of dividing your viewing in terms of arcs within the story. Watch an arc or two full of episodes at a time, take a break and then come back.
Yea, because there is alot anime left i still didn't see. The main reason i only watched about 16 episodes so far is that those first 16 episodes arent so exciting. But my bro told me it starts to get good after the first assignement.
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@ TheMorry:

Speaking for myself here, I try not think that much about when the "good part" is according to how people sell the show to you. More times than not from my experience, the "good part" never turns out to be that worth slogging through. People who say that, seem to take for granted the idea that you as an anime fan are also a completist.

If sixteen episodes is implying where you are right now is in the Land of Waves arc, I'd watch 3 more episodes from there and then stop, which is NOT to say whether those next three episodes are the "good part". Rather it's simply the last of the episodes of the arc you're currently in and it will give you some sense of conclusion. I'd watch those next three episodes, then stop and ask yourself what you thought about them and then move on to the next arc. I'd just think about watching them in arcs, not in terms of watching to where the supposed good part is.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:32 pm Reply with quote
TheMorry wrote:
Hypeathon wrote:
TheMorry wrote:
Maybe i should start watching Naruto afterall. I've only seen 16 episodes or so. xD 500+ to go...

Instead of thinking watching all the episodes you haven't seen that have been produced so far, I'd suggest thinking of dividing your viewing in terms of arcs within the story. Watch an arc or two full of episodes at a time, take a break and then come back.
Yea, because there is alot anime left i still didn't see. The main reason i only watched about 16 episodes so far is that those first 16 episodes arent so exciting. But my bro told me it starts to get good after the first assignement.


Ever consider reading the manga? It'll go by a lot quicker that way and you won't have to worry about awful filler (which there is plenty of here). Besides the story overall isn't good enough to sink 500+ episodes worth of time on.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:43 pm Reply with quote
I started from the beginning of Naruto late June, and am now at episode 60 of Shippuden. So I guess that's 280 episodes in a little over 2 months..I expect ill be caught up within 6 months at most. Just sayin. And yes I have a fulltime job and responsibilities.
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Amy wrote:
(Thank you, Dragon Ball Z, for forever setting the standard for a real long, drawn-out battle.)


DBZ gets a lot of unwarranted hate. Okay sure, it was indeed long and drawn out, but nothing like the degree that its successors One Piece, Naruto and Bleach have been.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:12 am Reply with quote
dtm42 wrote:
Amy wrote:
(Thank you, Dragon Ball Z, for forever setting the standard for a real long, drawn-out battle.)


DBZ gets a lot of unwarranted hate. Okay sure, it was indeed long and drawn out, but nothing like the degree that its successors One Piece, Naruto and Bleach have been.


At least with One Piece, the fight scenes haven't actually way too long and drawn out, and the fillers were actually entertaining.

Bleach didn't seem to have the long and drawn out fight scenes except the fillers sucked since they took too long.

Naruto,'though is just way too long with the fight scenes and stupid fillers.
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However, the gorgeousness of this episode's animation is a double-edged sword for the series as a whole. It's an example of the inconsistency in Naruto Shippūden's design and animation.


Inconsistency is not a bad thing. Good animators and directors allow each cut to be depicted as they see fit to depict different things.

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there's a specific group that gets some of the "major battle" episodes and more of the budget. This episode, directed by fan-favorite Hiroyuki Yamashita, is one of the better animated ones.


It's not a 'specific group' so much as multiple animators and directors who are skilled being brought onto the series. Episode Director, Storyboarder, and Animation Supervisor Yamashita Hiroyuki is an in-house employee of Studio Pierrot. He quickly evolved over the course of Shippuuden as the series' top in-house animator. He's worked with nearly all of the other talented directors to work on the series: Tsuru Toshiyuki (Shippuuden #85, #123, #166, #290), Nigorikawa Atsushi (#26, #135, #143), Sessha Gorou (#194 and Naruto SD #51), and Yokoyama Akitoshi (#131). The only talented director Yamashita hasn't worked under is Wakabayashi Atsushi, the king of action episodes. Wakabayashi has only directed one episode of Shippuuden so far, so that might factor into the situation. Wakabayashi had the unrelated Yamashita Shingo, Kutsuna Ken'ichi, and Matsumoto Norio do the majority of the key animation for Episode #167.

Yamashita Hiroyuki has directed three episodes so far, #322, #345, and now #375. Interestingly, Yamashita didn't do key animation for #375 like he did the previous two. I take this as meaning he is busy working on the film coming out in December. Freelancer Fujisawa Ken'ichi worked on this episode. Fujisawa's best work for the franchise was definitely the cuts he did for Episode #322. Young Pierrot animato Kobayashi Naoki also did a fair amount of work on the episode. Kobayashi Naoki has been working under Yamashita and some of the more talented directors as of late. Episode #353 was definitely when I began to notice Kobayashi. He did a wonderful fight scene for that episode.

Returning to the original point, it's less 'specific group' and more 'friends of the series director, producer, and in-house animators', like any other Japanese animated series.


Episodes like these, where directors and animators have an extra month or two to really do something special with their drawings are always the talk of the community. Drawing exactly on model becomes boring for animators, not to mention restricting, so they like to be able to experiment and depict the story using abstract drawings. Not even Character Designer Suzuki Hirofumi animates on model. He draws the characters as he sees fit for each cut.
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