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Lelouch Vi
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Still waiting for Toonami to broadcast Young Justice... Anyway to lose the 5-6 am hour isn't that bad, only if they're somehow able to get the 10pm timeslot instead. While I try to support Toonami the best way I can, I just can't find myself staying up until 5 or 6 am. it makes more sense for them to start early, rather than end so late. As for the person who suggested Fairy Tail, I kinda expected it to show up after Bleach ended but then again I really don't want it too since Fairy Tail is garbage
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veemonjosh
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Won't happen, Cartoon Network already wrote off the rights to Young Justice. And even when CN did still have it, I recall Toonami said in a Q&A that they attempted to get it on the block, but DC shot the idea down due to being uncomfortable with their kids show airing on an adult block. And before you say it, yes, Beware the Batman did air on Toonami, but that was likely because that was the only option CN gave DC for playing the 15 previously-unaired episodes. |
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penguintruth
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They should play some of those DC animated movies, the direct-to-video efforts. But the better ones, like the adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns, or Superman vs The Elite. Not Son of Batman.
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walw6pK4Alo
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I wonder if they can't because HBO has a contract for some of them?
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enurtsol
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But Toonami is an action block. The other side of Adult Swim is the one about comedies.
Depends on how old or more significantly, how old looking. They aired Samurai 7, and that's a decade old. |
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TheGameNinja
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Toonami had never been 6 hours long so this isn't too surprising or all that bad. plus losing the hour at the end can't be much of a loss, as much as I like IGPX and Samurai Jack I am not staying up til 5am to watch it. Toonami will be fine. Adult Swim will continue to have anime and so they have no reason not to keep the Toonami packaging around it. Last I heard, no one working on Toonami was getting paid.
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Kadmos1
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A big problem with this and licensing in general is when there's restrictions on the shows they can't get.
I would imagine this could be an issue people take with copyright. If somehow there were anime made within in the last 5 years received global public domain status, then I don't think they would have licensing/rights issues beyond who broadcasts it (Toonami airing said public domain anime vs. Nick airing it). |
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DangerMouse
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Pretty much this. I don't really see how you're supposed to judge ratings at the end of the block at 5AM, only the few hardcore watchers of re-runs are up that late hence the old re-runs so throwing some non-Toonami programming on there I really don't see effecting the ratings all that much in that hour either on a freaking Sunday morning before most TV watchers are even up on a Sunday. Edit: And for King of the Hill no less, as if it's not on enough...seems silly. And yeah atleast it's at the end of the block if it has to go back to 5 hours. That way premieres still on pretty early.
I'm have to imagine that must have changed by now with Toonami having been back for a while now. I believe that was just at the beginning where people like Blum were helping restart Toonami by offering to do some early stuff for free given the small starting budget and their desire to help get the block back on air. Last edited by DangerMouse on Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:37 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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leafy sea dragon
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Kill la Kill is definitely a good fit for the channel. Toonami viewers have always been into high-speed, high-intensity action, as seen when slower, more contemplative shows like Paranoia Agent get much lower ratings. It's also a very "anime" show, which I'm sure is what hurt One Piece when compared to the likes of Sword Art Online or Naruto. Yes, Nielsen boxes account for DVR'ed programming and include them as part of the ratings count. Not counted is online streaming from official sources, however.
In addition, some contracts require some certain amount of cycles of reruns. I know that the only shows Adult Swim would truly have carte blanche over with reruns is stuff they make or partially own themselves, which on the current lineup are IGPX and Space Dandy; otherwise, Adult Swim needs to at least ask permission. |
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MarshalBanana
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It is not really a problem is it? Even the faithfuls who watch the program every night it is on, must be tired of staying up until 5:30, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them don't.
The block itself still seems to be having the same problem since day 1, lack of new stuff. They occasionally put something that hasn't been on before, Deadman Wonderland, Attack on Titan, Space Dandy and I think InuYasha: The Final Act was first on this new Toonami. For instance out the 200 or so shows that have made and dubbed in the last 10 years, why do we see so little. I'm sure it is not that hard to get a license for a show. Even if it was every few weeks they replaced one of them with a new show they had licensed, it would give people an incentive other than loyalty to keep watching. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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There's only so many shows they can cycle when they favor the long running Shounen Jump titles, but that doesn't explain why they chose all the same movies for a second year a row in December. That's lame.
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CoreSignal
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As been mentioned already, an hour off the end of the block isn't really a big deal, since the viewership numbers around 2-3am are going to be much lower than the first two hours anyway. And Kill la Kill should turn out to to be a big boost for them just like AoT. In any case, I'll be tuning in especially to hear the dub and to see what they censor.
Interesting comment by DeMarco. Like everyone else, I associate Toonami with anime first and foremost. I remember reading something in animation forum recently about how the West has basically given up on action animation. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Even for the interesting western animation being made these days, they're only done in 11 minute installments.
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Fedora-san
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Unfortunately that's yet another cost cutting measure companies have to do, just as they did with the switch to Flash and CG animation. It's getting harder and harder to sell animation in America, and action animation is already literally dead. The fact the new Spongebob movie is live-action/CG is just the nail in the coffin if Spongebob of all things can't get a proper traditionally animated movie anymore. |
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leafy sea dragon
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I think that's more due to the lack of demand for traditional 2-D animation among children. The Simpsons Movie could get away with being in 2-D, but even Disney couldn't get the kids interested with The Princess and the Frog, with them preferring to see Alvin & The Chipmunks: The Squeakquel.
Some of these shows in 11-minute installments work best in that format though. I can't imagine something like Over the Garden Wall working in half-hour chunks, for one. |
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