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dtm42



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:38 am Reply with quote
I myself am often guilty of quoting the last post in the thread (which means my post sits directly below the one I quoted), so this is a timely reminder to everyone, regulars and newcomers alike. I'll be more careful in the future.
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yuna49



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:58 am Reply with quote
I especially dislike the posts that include a wall-of-quoted-text followed by a one-line snide remark. I see that too often here as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:33 pm Reply with quote
Oh, and I forgot to request that if you see any instances of this violation, please feel free to report it for clean up.
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Touma



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:12 am Reply with quote
I came here to ask if excessive quoting should be reported. Now I do not need to ask.
I know that there is an actual rule against it but I still was not sure if it is considered to be serious enough to justify having a moderator spend time on it.
Apparently it is, so I will report any egregious examples.

There seems to be a lot of it in the latest Talkback thread for "The List." But after looking at it again I think that most of it might be coming from two people who keep replying to each other and over-quoting each time.

I reported three of those posts from yesterday.
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Tony K.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:53 pm Reply with quote
It's not a big deal if it isn't reported. Personally, I just see them as more of an eyesore than anything else. If I run into said instances, I will delete said posts on the spot. Depending on my mood, I might even be nice and fix it. But I'm usually not, so tough tits for the user.

If you feel like reporting it, go ahead, and I'll do what I can. To me, "excessive" is any post with more than 3 quotes in it, such as:

user (4) wrote:
user (3) wrote:
user (2) wrote:
user (1) wrote:
this is

too

much

quoting


A post with too much quoted from another single post isn't so bad, depending on the amount quoted and the length of the reply. Like this:

user wrote:
another user wrote:
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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

I would call okay.

But this:


user wrote:
another user wrote:
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Yeah, man.

is stupid.

So just make a judgement call and report it if you think it's annoying to look at. Otherwise, if you're not feeling vigilant or whatever, that's fine, too.


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Touma



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:53 pm Reply with quote
Thanks, Tony K.
That tells me what I wanted to know.
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:53 pm Reply with quote
Tony, is this type of quoting OK? Example below:

Kadmos1 wrote:
The Kare Kano edits can be scene here go going to the Wayback Machine and typing in animeprime.com/reports.

The dub of Ai Yori Aoshi episode 13 replaced the "Happy Birthday to You" song spoiler[that Tina is practicing when walking with her groceries and that the characters sing at Aoi's birthday party] probably because of its copyright status here.


BringBackUzume wrote:
John Thacker wrote:

Song copyrights have their whole category. Vandread using Louis Armstrong singing "What a Wonderful World" during the initial Japanese TV broadcast, then replacing it for the home video release, the Gilbert O'Sullivan songs used for OP/ED exactly one episode of Maison Ikkoku but not on the US release, etc.


And Speed Grapher using a Duran Duran song in the Japanese release. However, Funimation couldn't get the rights to use it for their home video release, so they had to come up with their own original opening song in house.

I think music licenses in conjunction with Anime seems to be a lot more complicated than is thought to be.


*typed my response to these 3 users here*
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:54 am Reply with quote
I can answer for Tony here.

This degree of quoting is definitely not what we're talking about when we raise concerns about excessive quoting.
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:40 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
I can answer for Tony here.

This degree of quoting is definitely not what we're talking about when we raise concerns about excessive quoting.


Thanks for the answer, Key. Have to make sure if the quoting I did is acceptable.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:52 pm Reply with quote
As of today, repeat offenders of over-quoting will be placed on Moderation.
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:12 am Reply with quote
Tony K. wrote:
As of today, repeat offenders of over-quoting will be placed on Moderation.


Shocked OK then, I'll keep my eye out and report it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:36 pm Reply with quote
This is a bit ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:48 pm Reply with quote
Yes, excessive quoting is *quite* ridiculous. People should not be so lazy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:44 am Reply with quote
I'm not sure how quoting a post when you're specifically replying to it is lazy.
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shamisen the great



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:19 am Reply with quote
^ I don't think quoting one person is the problem. The key word is "excessive." I don't think it is a huge deal but it is kind of annoying to see a huge wall of people quoting someone who is quoting someone else ad infinitum.
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