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YumeHunter
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Just the fact that you can't understand the jokes makes Hoozuki perishable? Really?
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bobob101
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I know that comedy is subjective and all. And I know that there is a high barrier of entry into Hoozuki. I loved it, I say it deserves a B grade or so. I think your review is wrong.
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Hameyadea
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While the show Oda Nobuna no Yabō has used the tropes highschool-boy-as-the-protagonist and harem-show, it manages to be an above-average show for me.
A big factor on my opinion is the musical contributions of the composer Takanashi Yasuharu, as well as solid VA from Itō Kanae, Eguchi Takuya (Hachiman!), Noto Mamiko and more. The animation is quite good as well, and keeps up reasonably well the feeling of 16th century Japan, IMO. As written in the column, the fact that the show was a 1 cour adaptation of an ongoing source material (IIRC, 19 LN volumes were released to date) didn't do the show's end any good. Also, while the show itself is quite good, its somewhat bland synopsis (teenage boy gets thrown back in time, to meet a whole lot of cute girls) makes it a bit hard to distinguish - at first glance - from most of those "for harem-loving fans" shows. |
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Carlooo
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I liked Houzuki no Reitetsu, but I can't disagree with Lynzee's review. She does accurately point out the show's flaws. The jokes I found most amusing relied on me knowing some obscure fact about Asian folklore, or, in one case, having seen Japanese commercials.
I really liked it, but I can only recommend it to other people if they have extensive knowledge about Japanese pop culture and Asian folklore. |
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navycherub
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Aw, perishable for Hoozuki no Reitetsu? I understand the reasoning, but I personally really loved that show when it was airing. I hope some people still check it out.
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DmonHiro
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For the average consumer, Hoozuki is indeed perishable. It takes a more open mind and a lot of knowledge on Japanese things to get most of Hoozuki. It's not for the average R1 viewer.
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thekingsdinner
 Posts: 1069 Location: Geertruidenberg, Netherlands |
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Hozuki no Reitetsu perishable? But, but, but it's one of the shows from last year... Oh well, opinions I guess. I was thinking of buying the Blu-ray but at the moment there's too many others things I want at the moment (which includes the new Ranma BD set).
Besides, I'm hoping for a UK release although I'm not sure if anybody in the UK has licensed it. |
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rheiders
 Posts: 1137 Location: Colorful Colorado :) |
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Aw, I really loved Hoozuki no Reitetsu. It's dry as a bone, but that tends to be how I like my comedy.
 It's true that it has a high barrier of entry, though. I tried showing it to my roommate and she was like, "What...?" I feel like I spent most of that twenty minutes explaining the jokes that didn't have translation notes under them lol.
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albanian
 Posts: 133 Location: UK |
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You can count me as another one who enjoyed Houzuki no Reitetsu - not loved by any means, but certainly liked. And, as with rheiders above, it was the sheer dessicated nature of its humour which appealed to me - and the fact that, in my career, I came across many pompous, anally-retentive control freaks like Houzuki (England seems to breed plenty of them!) and I found nearly all of them utterly hilarious.
But Lynzee is absolutely right: this is a very acquired taste, and only to be viewed by a very particular subset of anime enthusiasts. |
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Tanteikingdomkey
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I actually really liked hozaki it was unique and I found it to be very funny on average. there are some misses but I really enjoyed the humor. Yes he is flawless but that actually manages to work to the shows benefit somehow IDK how but it does.
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Gina Szanboti
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I wish Houzuki would have gotten a less literal translation for its title. "Houzuki's Coolheadedness" is as bad as "Big Windup" as far as selling to someone who isn't already a fan of the series. Even "Houzuki's Hell" would be better than "Coolheadedness," since "hell" in a title is more attention grabbing.
I remember when Carl reviewed it, he also said that Houzuki was not much of a draw as the main character, and I'm still baffled by that. As I said back then, all the reviewers keep saying it's not funny or engaging, but the replies to those reviews are overwhelmingly to the contrary. I don't think I've ever seen a series that provoked this degree of division between staff and forum opinion. 
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3mapletrees
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Nice shelf collection. I like the figures as well.
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heroictype
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Another one here who enjoyed Hozuki. Yes, it's definitely not for people without at least some understanding of Japanese folklore, but if you've got that, I think it's pretty good. The joke about androgyny was definitely a problem, but otherwise, I found more hits than misses in the humor.
What I really don't understand is what they say about Hozuki himself. He's definitely got flaws; he's too strict/straightforward most of the time and almost constantly tense about something, but when we saw him relax, it always warmed my heart a little. Also, while this is a particularly subjective point, I can see why the reviewer didn't like this if they were looking for character relationships or character-based comedy - I enjoyed Hozuki's rivalry with Hakutaku and his relationship with Enma even as fairly small pieces of the show, because as I saw it, the show was essentially about Hozuki's relationship with Hell as a whole. As such I found all the little character interactions as entertaining as they needed to be to build a strong, consistent piece. Hozuki is definitely not going to be for everyone. It's a lot drier and has weaker, or at least very different, characterization than something like Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun. But I think it does what it does pretty well, whether one likes it or not. |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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You don't need to be a native Japanese speaker to find Hozuki no Reitetsu funny. Case in point: me. I liked the show despite not understanding half the references or knowing the folklore, because it still had an excellent sense of humour and great characters. I'm saddened that Lynzee was so put off by how Japanese the show was that she didn't even try to like it.
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EricJ2
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As far as I can tell, the real Nobunaga was seen as historically influential for uniting the country, but also seen as an "invading conqueror" for making deals with the Portuguese Christian missionaries to bring in gunpowder and rifles, thus betraying and "destroying" the whole samurai-sword spirit of the country. Which has given him the reputation of the great national boogeyman, and an easy target for cheap nationalistic depictions in fantasy or historical series. At least it doesn't get much worse than the Ghost Sweeper Mikami movie depicting him as secretly an immortal demonically-possessed vampire all along. 
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