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DavidShallcross



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:20 pm Reply with quote
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First, if all you have are numbers that say "BD rank" and "DVD rank", then, no, you don't know that.

You have been told several times now that the numbers cited don't say "BD rank" and "DVD rank".
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:11 pm Reply with quote
DavidShallcross wrote:
agila61 wrote:
First, if all you have are numbers that say "BD rank" and "DVD rank", then, no, you don't know that.
You have been told several times now that the numbers cited don't say "BD rank" and "DVD rank".
I was just going on what King of Harts wrote there.

The argument that Rightstuf does not know the relative number of units shipped in various market niches, and if they would only consult Amazon's sales rankings they would be as well informed as ANN commentators ...

... runs into the fact that they are an online retailer, and they have not only ranking information from other online retailers, but actual unit sales and sales volume information from their own order processing to work from.

BD sales are growing, but last year they were less than 1/5 of DVD sales by dollar sales volume, even less by unit sales volume. Ignoring that, or shrugging it away, on the basis of a handful of cherry-picked examples of Amazon rankings is just confirmation bias.
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I'm glad Dirty Pair is being re-released I missed it the first time around so I will be looking forward to purchasing it this time.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:13 am Reply with quote
agila61 wrote:
DavidShallcross wrote:
agila61 wrote:
First, if all you have are numbers that say "BD rank" and "DVD rank", then, no, you don't know that.
You have been told several times now that the numbers cited don't say "BD rank" and "DVD rank".
I was just going on what King of Harts wrote there.

The argument that Rightstuf does not know the relative number of units shipped in various market niches, and if they would only consult Amazon's sales rankings they would be as well informed as ANN commentators ...

... runs into the fact that they are an online retailer, and they have not only ranking information from other online retailers, but actual unit sales and sales volume information from their own order processing to work from.

BD sales are growing, but last year they were less than 1/5 of DVD sales by dollar sales volume, even less by unit sales volume. Ignoring that, or shrugging it away, on the basis of a handful of cherry-picked examples of Amazon rankings is just confirmation bias.

But you're talking about the whole market which is probably not representative of the very small and niche anime market. If you look at anime alone, from amazon's own hard data, then those anime BDs are doing very well indeed like The King of Harts stated.

And how would Rightstuf have sales data from other retailers? And if BD anime consumers buy from amazon, then rightstuf's own data would not only miss that, it may also have an inverse effect, especially considering how much larger amazon is (I myself buy from both RS and AZ; price is usually the deciding factor along with shipping since I use Amazon Prime) Using rightstuf's own sales data alone would be just as much a confirmation bias.

Now for dup and authoring costs, I can tell you it isn't that much more at all and can easily be passed onto consumers. However the main factor would be licensing costs and this boils down to Shawn's prognostication vs all the other companies seeing how they are the very last licensor to hold out on BDs.
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