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PantsGoblin
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Encyclopedia Editor Posts: 2969 Location: L.A. |
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I know there's jokes in some anime that I'm not getting. Which is why I prefer the company that releases it/fansub that subs it to include translator notes and/or cultural notes. So if I don't know the joke or what it's refering to I will at least learn something from it. Most of the time I really enjoy watching comedy anime, since it is one of my favorite genres. And I'd say I get about 70-90% of what is going on with most comedy anime...
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Animefreak6969
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ya, i like it when they put cultural notes so i can know what it means, like for Pani Poni Dash, where they could've just left the note clip down because they popped so many up anyway and had to sub EVERY little thing on the screen
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hayakunero
Posts: 61 Location: 日本 |
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??? That means the joke has nothing to do with Osaka-ben? Then what Cloe-san doesn't get isn't the whole Osaka-ben humor thing. By the way, my friedns always laugh when I sing a theme song of my favorite parody anime Keroro Gunsou. Eki kara 5funwa jitsuwa 15fun. |
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Zoe
Posts: 898 Location: Austin |
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While I think comedians from Osaka use it the most, I could have sworn I've seen others use that humor. Edit: The style is called "manzai." |
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hayakunero
Posts: 61 Location: 日本 |
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I've seen that humour??? so many times so I don't care who uses it.
Who ( japanese comedians) do you like ? Do you like Akashiya Samma? He is a great comedian and speaks Kansai-ben. I like Black Mayonaise. They speak kansai-ben too. |
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Lorraine_Kristine
Posts: 50 Location: Philippines,Cebu |
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I think that their humor, so far, as I've seen, is just stupid replies...
very idiotic replies... And the way they over exaggerate the movements, like teh classic anime fall, sweatdrop, nose bleed, squiggly eyes, very huge bump on the head, very big heads, SD forms... |
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abunai
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Posts: 5463 Location: 露命 |
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You're half right.... Kurosaki Ichigo's name is written: 黒崎一護 The family name, Kurosaki, is straightforward enough, 黒崎. It means "black peninsula" or "black cape" (in the sense of a spit of land sticking out into the sea, not in the sense of a Superman-style cape). It's not an uncommon family name. His personal name, Ichigo, 一護, is composed of the kanji for "(numeral) one", and the kanji for "safeguard" or "protect". So, if you want to read meaning into it, it means "first protector". There are several words that are homonyms with this. As you correctly pointed out, ichigo (written with just one kanji, as 苺) can mean "strawberry". But ichigo written with the kanji 一個 can also mean "one unit" or "first unit" in the sense of counting things (especially round or boxy items) or military units. However, in this sense it usually does not occur as a name. So you were mistaken about this being the reading of Ichigo's name. Even so, this is part of the rather complex pun. Several times in the Bleach manga, and at least once in the anime, the minor character Madarame Ikkaku points out that he and Ichigo share a kinship of sorts, by virtue of both their names containing the kanji for the numeral 1. It's a pun. It's not a terribly funny one, even in Japanese. They missed a number of obvious alternate puns, by the way -- all of this being intimately connected with the spirit world and life after death, the kanji 瑚 (on-yomi reading ko, go, meaning "a receptacle in which one places offerings to departed ancestors") might have made for a good pun. Who knows, that may still crop up, down the line. It's not like Bleach is likely to stop any time soon, being a quintessentially endless shounen title.
Manzai is already in the Lexicon, you know. - abunai |
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dormcat
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Posts: 9902 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan, ROC |
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Good heavens, that's its much more obscure and ancient meaning of that kanji character. Specifically, it's a receptacle for sorghum (Sorghum vulgare) in summer rites. The much more common use of 瑚 today is in sango (珊瑚), which means "coral", and Inuyasha fans should be quite familiar with that phrase. |
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abunai
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Well, since when was obscurity a problem when punning? - abunai |
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SmashRackets4Fun
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I just wanna say that Asians HATE sarcasm. even in every day situation for laughs and giggles, they take it as a sign of disrespect and lack of seriousness. if you act sarcastic with your parents... ouch, dont... i have, not fun they dont get it.
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dormcat
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Posts: 9902 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan, ROC |
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Hmm, you have set up a nice trap for a no-win situation. We can't just sit and watch and let such over-generalizing and discriminative speech be spread, but if we object and protest your opinion then you'd call us "sarcasm haters." This is quite low. Seriously.
You have no idea how fun the conversation between my family members could be. |
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Tony K.
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Moderator Posts: 11297 Location: Frisco, TX |
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I'm sarcastic with my parents all the time. With Lao being a tonal languange, I make a lot of silly word jokes to mess with them and they always laugh about it. Heck, they even started using some after a while.
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Lorraine_Kristine
Posts: 50 Location: Philippines,Cebu |
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Uhm, this is true... BUT NOT ALL, dont generalize...We aren't made the same If ASIANS DO HATE SARCASM, then why did japanese manga-ka/anime creators, include it as their jokes? If they hated it that much? |
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Zoe
Posts: 898 Location: Austin |
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MorwenLaicoriel
Posts: 1617 Location: Colorado |
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I'm pretty sure Japanese people don't hate all sarcasm. I've seen it in anime--like when Psyren (Siren? How do they spell her name...?) calls Ed "Ochibi-chan"--which (loosely) translates into something like "Sacred cute little thing" ('sacred' because the 'O' is normally used in front of something considered to be particularly important to the Japanese...everything from their gods, to...sushi and sake.). I'm pretty sure she wasn't using it seriously...
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