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jojothepunisher
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So you are saying that they are fictional characters and some of them are slightly exaggerated. How does that not make the characters feel abnormal? They may not compare to some of the extreme personalities in Clannad, but they are certainly out there. The only part of the show that actually feels real is Kumiko, and her childhood friend Aoi. The rest of the cast feels like they are there to provide comedy, which they certainly do. |
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ikillchicken
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Yeah, like Wikipedia isn't in the pocket of Big Band. Gimme a break. Although I must admit, I now notice my list was actually somewhat incomplete. I forgot about the Trombone (duh) and the Anti-Flute as well. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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I hope they get into some serious music playing and less moping about past failures that will surely inform the entire rest of the series with unneeded drama. Anyway, still glad that we get a music show that's not exclusively about piano, violin, or guitar Think of all the past musical anime and those will be the only instruments.
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Takigan
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As someone whose degree and career is based in band instruction, the instrument animations were something I was extraordinarily impressed with. The level of detail and research that the artists undertook in the production demands admiration. The Trombone in episode 2 is virtually an exact replica of the Yamaha Xeno YSL-882. 
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The foley work is impressive as well. When Hazuki puts the Tuba mouthpiece into "Tuba-kun" the sound effect of the metal scraping sounds exactly and distinctively like what putting the mouthpiece in the actual horn sounds like for real. Really looking forward to seeing more of this. |
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Alan45
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@Takigan
It was mentioned elsewhere that Yamaha is involved with the production committee of this show. If that is correct it might explain both the accuracy of the depiction of the instruments and why they didn't need to change "Yamaha" in the animation. |
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ultimatemegax
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No, the production committtee for this show is: Kyoto Animation Pony Canyon Lantis Rakuonsha Yamaha is credited as Instrument-related Cooperation, meaning they likely provided example instruments for reference which would allow the production to keep their name on the instrument. Additional "Cooperation" credits are for the Kyoto Visual Imagery Promotion organization, the town of Uji's sightseeing division, the Kyoto concert band alliance, the Japanese concert band alliance, the Kyoto Cultural Museum, the Keihan railway, the Kyoto concert hall, and East Uji High School's concert band. Somehow none of those get thought of from people who can't read the credits as "financing the production" yet Yamaha does. Maybe the "no speculation" rule needs to be more firmly enforced to prevent situations like this. |
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Alan45
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Thanks for the correction. This isn't speculation, just misinformation. At any rate, Yamaha was involved.
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MorwenLaicoriel
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They're not abnormal if pretty much all fictional characters I like that. You can never have a fictional character that's truly as complex as a true human being because fiction just doesn't have the time for that. That's why even movies and things based on real people will exaggerate things or change the story to make it have "better" dramatic beats. I just really don't see how you think the characters are so out there. The only character in the show that I can't think of someone I've known in real life that's similar is Sapphire/Midori, honestly. I've definitely known the quiet and serious, determined people like Kumiko's friend in middle school, I've known overly enthusiastic and weird obsessive nerds like Asuka (the vice president), I've had teachers just like the band adviser, I definitely knew girls as a kid that were way too loud and hyper like the tuba girl. They're not just moe stereotypes to me, particularly since there's no indication in the show so far that the characters are going to be reduced to one or two traits (the clumsy shy one, the tsundere, etc) like a lot of more trope-y anime are. There's already signs that there's a bit more to all of the characters than that, at least to me personally. |
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Via_01
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Daaamn, that club advisor is brutal. But he's right though: if they can't even play a beginner's piece together, then there's no point in introducing them to more complex pieces, let alone for the sake of participating in a festival where they'd probably give a mediocre performance. And even if they felt they were "forced" to make a choice, they still chose to aim for the nationals, and if they are not willing to see it through, then they are clearly wasting the teacher's time, and most importantly, their own time, as Nick said.
For me, one of the hightlights of this episode was when Kumiko went to choose her euphonium. In episode 2, she expressed that she wanted to choose her own instrument, as she euphonium was pushed onto her, so she feels dissatisfied with having to play the same instrument yet again. But the scene where she sees the euphonium, and how her smile was reflected on the surface... it was just perfect. She didn't say anything, but it became clear to my eyes that, despite everything she said on episode 2, she's still fond of the euph., and probably still enjoys playing it. Man, this show really made me want to play my flute for a change... it's been a while since I played... in fact, I think I'm going to do so right now. |
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Plasmaeclipse
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I liked that scene a lot too. It paints a very good picture of Kumiko just from that look alone and it lends a lot of context to a lot of the later scenes. For as much as Nick read into the scenes as Kumiko being swept up in other people's flow I can't help but disagree because of the very subtle characterizations, such as the scene with the Euph. Other things like the way she looked when she was told not to play at home, and when she saw everyone goofing off it gave a very subtle sense of frustration and disappointment. As much as she acts like she doesn't care you can see on her face that she really does, a lot. We never explicitly see her being dragged away for the circular breathing exercise. I read it as Kumiko wanting to start over from scratch, it's easy to forget the basics and since she never had any intention of continuing originally it makes sense she would want to redo the basics just to psyche herself back up. |
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darkchibi07
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Well, the advisor could been even worse like him throwing chairs at them or something.
I am loving how the dramatic foundations are being built up without being overblown; it feels rather natural. I'd imagine once the band starts taking this seriously, we will be treated with a lavish performance with gorgeous animation to boot. One thing is for sure; this show is not K-ON! 2.0 with a different set of instruments. Last edited by darkchibi07 on Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:24 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Valhern
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One thing we should notice is that Kumiko was happy Kousaka talked to her, even if it was something small as "Take that desk", maybe this is linked to when Kousaka outbursts in frustration and Kumiko understands what she means, and probably is what determines her to step it up. And on this regard, if I recall correctly, Kousaka changed instruments, right? Maybe there is something in there, Kumiko wanted to change the euph, and would have if she really wanted, and Kousaka actually changed hers, just saying.
On another important note, Asuka is best character by far. |
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ultimatemegax
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Reina Kousaka played the trumpet in middle school much like she is doing in this series. We observed in episode 2 that she was talented playing it during her audition to play it here and that takes a lot of practice to achieve such level of performance. |
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CapNatsukiSan
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Let's just say that I'm feeling sorry for Riyogaa...a certain Youtuber who failed to enjoy everything that's on my favourites list...from Clannad to Disappearance...you name it...I distinctively remember hearing him say in a dismissive tone 'hey, another...KyoAni Moe show...I'm not going to watch that, not sure if its gonna be K-on 2.0 but I'm skipping that.' Not sure why I mentioned him...maybe its because its most memorable in my mind right now.
Anyway, I'm glad I looked past all pre-show scepticism and continued watching...what I get is constant visual perfection, and now, drama I can relate to, and well executed from the framing to the subtly brutal dialogue. |
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Ergo Proxy
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Have to disagree strongly with the reviewer. This week's episode was the show's strongest one yet. The teacher is great
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