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Why I Can't Stop Watching Prison School


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meiam



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:01 pm Reply with quote
justsomeaccount wrote:
meiam: Ehhhh? The music that sounds is pure energetic rock for such tense situation that transmits urgency, and he doesn't spoiler[have a orgasm face, he has the typical "PEEING WHEN YOU CAN'T KEEP IT ANYMORE" face]. And the cut to spoiler[the dominatrix drinking is basically tricking us for a second that they were actually showing us... well, Hana drinking that (and making all of us going "UUUUGH"), but instead it's just ridiculous dominatrix drinking in ridiculous way]. That's not sexy at all, just pure over the top sexual ridiculous stuff meant to be funny.


spoiler[The 80 porn music come from an earlier scene, when there in some kind of shed. As far as his face... It is definitely framed in climax way, he even goes all "AAhhhhh.. awwww".]
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vonPeterhof



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:52 pm Reply with quote
bobob101 wrote:
Your reasoning definitely applies to my enjoyment of Prison school as well to a lesser extent why I watch Shimoneta (these light novel short titles are getting out of hand).
A nitpick, but the short title used by the Japanese viewers is "ShimoSeka". "Shimoneta" is just the actual Japanese word for "dirty joke" (or, more precisely, "dirty material", since it doesn't necessarily have to be humorous).

As for Prison School, I do find the contrast between the outlandishness of what's going on and the dead seriousness of the characters and the framing to be hilarious in and of itself, but I guess an element of morbid curiosity ("just how are they gonna top THAT?!") is also present.
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Covnam



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:02 pm Reply with quote
Interesting read, I'll probably check it out once the BDs come out.
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HyugaHinata



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:45 am Reply with quote
(Almost) everyone has their own sexual fetish. As a gay man myself, I love ultra-violent cartoon yaoi. It's comedy to me. Psychological and emotional abuse will do that to you (instead of socialising and studying in middle and high school, I was forced to do golf and tennis. And watch so many movies until I couldn't enjoy them any longer).

Live-action violence? Not so much. I can tell the difference, and the real deal is like the difference between reading erotic fiction (swallowed like candy in middle school) and watching Deliver us from Evil.

http://www.amazon.com/Deliver-Us-Evil-Oliver-OGrady/dp/B000NIVJH2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1440827113&sr=8-5&keywords=deliver+us+from+evil
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Little_Hawk



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:36 am Reply with quote
Why can't I stop watching Prison School? Because it's [expletive] brilliant.
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ronri



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:46 am Reply with quote
I haven't watched the anime, but I've read some scenes from the manga when I saw some folks spreading it around (spoiler[the infamous speech by the chairman and what makes a true "Ass Man"]) and I think there's one thing that people are missing when reading Hope's take on this:

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If Prison School can be said to have a theme, it's that pubescence is terrifying in an "embrace the madness" sort of way. In their own words, the boys are "imprisoned by love" (lust) and the real prison they can't escape from is the rush of perversion and sexual obsession flooding their system that just won't ever go away. It will follow them for the rest of their lives, just like it has the academy's otherwise professional headmaster. He will forever like big butts and be unable to lie about it.


I think this is it. THIS right here is what hooks people.

Those bolded words in the quote above are exactly why I think this show "works". It's basically an unapologetic depiction of child-like male pubescence in high school at a greatly exaggerated level. It's definitely not something that will click with everyone. It's so stupid yet so boldly (and genuinely!) invested in what it's trying to depict that it makes the experience actually fascinating.

The amount of ridiculous dramatic tension and seriousness tied into the mix makes it engaging in a "I don't want to look but I can't stop watching" sort of vibe (which hilariously sounds like how you'd treat a horror film). It's that sense of dreaded curiosity that is completely undiluted in its choice of subject matter and presentation. Be it the bone-headed stupidity, the grossness, the fetish-y S&M moments, the unique/ridiculous obsessions of its respective characters.... the show pulls it off so well as one cohesive yet nonsensical story.


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SHD



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:14 am Reply with quote
ronri wrote:
I think this is it. THIS right here is what hooks people.

So people who think that it's just plain funny and endearing in its (very intentional) stupidity are actually doing it wrong? :/

I'm a woman so I've never experienced the "child-like male pubescence in high school" first hand (and it's not the same when you experience it second-hand), and while watching the show I've never had the "I don't want to look but can't stop" feeling that people talk about either. I just have a thing for this kind of comedy.

(I continue to be honestly confused about the way that many people seem to treat Prison School, as if it was something strange and unique that needs to be analyzed to be understood. I never felt that way.)
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Kikaioh



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:21 am Reply with quote
I watched a few episodes of Prison School because I liked the art style, and I do actually think it's a good show. Despite its fixation on sexual drive, it doesn't feel like it's going out of its way to service any of the audience's proverbial fancies. TBH, watching it feels like watching a mainstream "coming-of-age" 90's fraternity movie, about the trials and travails of boys-will-be-boys teenagers falling victim to their emerging pubescence. It's shameless but ultimately well-meaning fun I think, and the fact that the entertainment comes from the characterizations and outrageous situations, as opposed to the sexual imagery constantly flaunted on-screen, I think is maybe a good indicator that the show is trying more to say something about the sexuality of youth, as opposed to just exploiting it for pure titillation.
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ronri



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:22 am Reply with quote
SHD wrote:
So people who think that it's just plain funny and endearing in its (very intentional) stupidity are actually doing it wrong? :/

I'm a woman so I've never experienced the "child-like male pubescence in high school" first hand (and it's not the same when you experience it second-hand), and while watching the show I've never had the "I don't want to look but can't stop" feeling that people talk about either. I just have a thing for this kind of comedy.

(I continue to be honestly confused about the way that many people seem to treat Prison School, as if it was something strange and unique that needs to be analyzed to be understood. I never felt that way.)


Nothing I said contradicts the idea of this show being plain funny though. It's still funny, but I'm just giving my two cents on why it's probably hooked a lot of people with its ridiculous style of comedy. Prison School is something I'd hardly analyze, but would it hurt to discuss what makes it intriguing for people?

Kikaioh wrote:
It's shameless but ultimately well-meaning fun I think, and the fact that the entertainment comes from the characterizations and outrageous situations, as opposed to the sexual imagery constantly flaunted on-screen, I think is maybe a good indicator that the show is trying more to say something about the sexuality of youth, as opposed to just exploiting it for pure titillation.

Pretty much.
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marcos torres toledo



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:52 pm Reply with quote
Where is Prison School streaming and who is the author of the manga. This would be what I would rent at a video store remember those days what the rating of this anime by the way. Does anyone know if Akame Ga Kill is also a manga I watching the anime on Toonami and who is the author of that story series. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:10 pm Reply with quote
@marcos torres toledo

In today's ad skin, you will see a Funimation ad for Prison School to the left of your screen. You will find the answers to your other questions in the Encyclopedia here.
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leatherhead333



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:16 pm Reply with quote
HaruhiToy wrote:

My reasoning:

We often complain in these forums about the tropes in teen rom-coms and particularly the one where the MC is continuously punished not for doing anything wrong but just the appearance of it. Sometimes not even the appearance of male perfidy is required -- just their presence. In Love Hina (sort of gold standard for this sort of thing) Keitaro is in one scene actually asleep when he is kicked through a wall and over the horizon simply because that is what girls do (and are privileged to do) when they are nonplussed. Har har har.

And I am sure every reader here could name a thousand examples of this and how they have gotten bored with it and how overused it it and so on. And it continues to this day and shows no sign of ever being abandoned.

My guess is the makers of Prison School feel the same way. What they seem to be saying to the anime industry and consumers in general is: You like that trope so much? Well then tell me what you think of this. And what they have presented is the raw form -- the true essence of what mainstream anime constantly flirts with. The treatment the boys get is nothing more than the logical extension in most rom-com anime.

The point seems to be that you will never look at another anime rom-com interaction of this type again without thinking about how Hana keeps trying to piss on Kiyoshi and failing, instead getting defiled herself and aroused in the process.

That is what satire is all about. That is what it is for: to change how people thing about something that they see as normal. (and, perhaps, change their behavior about it?) And that, in my humble opinion, is what Prison School is. And it is excellent.



Damn.....it's like you took everything I wanted to say directly from my brain......................... shit.

I've recently been following Fate Ilya and honest to god I've never seen a more lazy use of this kind of trope. Literally in the latest episode a character walks around the corner, sees a mother in her swimsuit, her two daughters in their normal clothes (they were pushed in by the mom) and for no damn reason at all punches the son who clearly wasn't involved with the situation. I just don't get it. Where is the humor in that? It's such a heavy handed way to force a joke we've seen a million times.

That's why I tend to enjoy satire heavy rom-coms because there is a lot of clever humor that can come from that. If the show is as you say I'll probably check it out. It's always refreshing when characters don't have a million straight men that feel the need to point out what we were already thinking. Natural dry humor for the win!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:10 pm Reply with quote
when i read the title i thought to myself, its fun to watch because the silly subject material is treated with such intensity that its pure comedy. thats the whole show, you could just call it
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intense comedy
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Title: "Why Hope is a freakish zombie in disguise?" Laughing
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While I am only watching the dub, I am enjoying Whitney Rodgers as the principle. Her FB group even has some photos of her cosplayed as that character.
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