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INTEREST: BPO Publishes Viewer Complaint About Man Catching Brother Masturbating in Anime


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Zalis116
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:59 am Reply with quote
Thank goodness Mr. Osomatsu isn't one of those fetishistic latenight harem anime for creepy otaku that feature schoolgirls drinking tea or worse forms or depravity.
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:02 am Reply with quote
I still think Japanese television needs a ratings system. That way, when complaints like these arise, the channel can say that the ratings suggests a show may be unsuitable for kids without adult supervision or whatnot.

MarshalBanana wrote:
To be fair it is a kids show


Mr. Osomatsu is a kids show in the same sense that The Simpsons is a kids show: It isn't really, but it looks like one, so kids are watching it nonetheless.

Greed1914 wrote:
"But think of the children!" Yes, I'm thinking the children should be in bed. I'm also thinking their parents should know that if they are still watching TV late at night when content restrictions are relaxed, they might end up seeing things that aren't so kid-friendly.


As the opening of TV Funhouse suggests, "Everyone stay up and play for the last cartoon show of the day...Last chance to be entertained; sleep is good but TV helps your brain!"

GeneStriker wrote:
But seriously. Don't watch this with your kids unless you're prepared for the consequences, and don't complain when the obvious fallout happens. It's your fault you let them watch it, not the Matsunos'.


Maybe it's just the translation, but the tone of the BPO's reasoning suggests to me that they're afraid of kids watching Mr. Osomatsu by themselves while the parents are asleep or doing something else.

Considering kids get a lot of freedom and independence in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the norm for kids to watch TV by themselves.

Still, unless Mr. Osomatsu shows on a night right before a weekend, the problem lies squarely with parents who want their TVs to act as their babysitters and don't care when their kids go to bed.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:04 am Reply with quote
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cloud8100 wrote:
Jeez Louise, its like a lot of people can't control their own kids.


I don't think it is about the kids. I think it is about the adults and their own blanket zone of comfort. The kids are just an excuse.


I agree to an extent, but I think both are a problem. Varies though.
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Ninjajake12



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:58 am Reply with quote
Must...catch...up...before...more...censoring.

Seriously though, Osomatsu-san is getting chewed up by parent groups and copyright. I'm really going to have to hurry. I already missed the first episode on Crunchyroll and had to watch it on another site. Honestly, the scene wasn't that bad. Seen worse and have seen worse implications before in comedy anime, ecchi anime, and others.

It's technically a 'kids' show (well, it was back in the day), but the current animation style should be a good warning that it isn't for kids anymore.
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Hikarunu



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:00 am Reply with quote
Geez, it is a late night anime, I dont see anything wrong with that scene.
Anime like Dagashi Kashi is airing at late night even though it is candy themed which aimed at kids. It is because of fan service and suggestive porn in it.

These people must be thinking kids style anime like Panty and Stocking is really aimed for kids. I dont know what to say.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:21 am Reply with quote
leafy sea dragon wrote:


Still, unless Mr. Osomatsu shows on a night right before a weekend, the problem lies squarely with parents who want their TVs to act as their babysitters and don't care when their kids go to bed.

It airs on Monday night at 25:35(1:35AM on Tuesday)
Even on a friday/saturday that would be way to late for little kjids. In that kind of case, its the parents problem for letting them stay up late, not the tv.

I also secretly watched tv late as a little kid(in secret ofcourse), to watch undubbed kids shows(sabrina, Bitting beavers, ren & Stimpy etc..), so it does not surprise this also happens in Japan.
But if we based everything on what kids could see, then we'd get no program that has anything about an 'for all/family' rating.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:39 pm Reply with quote
Huh, I thought "that kind of thing" wasn't as frowned upon as much in Japan as it is in America. Most of what I've heard is that it was one of those "It can't be helped" issues.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:21 pm Reply with quote
Rederoin wrote:
It airs on Monday night at 25:35(1:35AM on Tuesday)
Even on a friday/saturday that would be way to late for little kjids. In that kind of case, its the parents problem for letting them stay up late, not the tv.


Wow, that IS incredibly late. There is no excuse for parents who let their kids stay up that late on a school night to watch TV.

I've encountered plenty of parents who either spoil their kids rotten because they can't stand to see their kids not happy, and I've encountered plenty of parents who don't have the energy or are too lazy to give them any sort of rules for their behavior, but I didn't think it was common enough in Japan to be a big deal, what with how important they consider school. And I would consider both of those approaches bad parenting.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:30 pm Reply with quote
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According to the complaint, the scene featured a man teasing his brother after catching him masturbating. The parents stated that while the anime airs during a late night block, the program should be more considerate of younger kids that may watch the anime.

Would the complaint have been of similar acuteness if the humbled chap, rather than being interrupted, had instead been left to perform the coda to his flute solo, so to speak?
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:47 pm Reply with quote
Nope, because then it wouldn't have the irony of parents being afraid to drop in on their kids watching a show where a family member drops in on another family member polishing the candlestick.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:17 am Reply with quote
How absurd, it's not the TV's job to protect your chidren, it's yours.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:06 am Reply with quote
Does the BPO command a lot of public support in Japan? Worrying about scenes in a show aired well after midnight because children might be watching seems so absurd that you would think it would undermine their legitimacy in the general population.

Do they wave the same flags about live-action programming? I've seen some pretty dicey stuff from YouTube clips like this game show where the objective is to expose a naked woman in a shower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Fyff4RuAk. Do shows like this raise the ire of the BPO as well, or are they largely focused on animation because, you know, "anime is for kids?"


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cowtalina



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:29 am Reply with quote
The thing is...
It's not the show's problem, it's the parents'. If you don't do anything for your kid's safety nobody else will. It doesn't matter if the kid watched the episode when the parents were sleeping or something. I'd prefer to block certain stuff during the night, when more adult stuff is being shown. Not trying to take the kid's freedom, it's just so stuff like this won't happen.
This show might look like a kids show, but it's not.
I'm pretty sure kids should be sleeping by the time this show airs, right?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:26 pm Reply with quote
After reading the article I am curious about a few things.

The first is whether or not the BPO is taken seriously in Japan.
Do anime studios, TV stations, the government, or anybody, ever change anything in response to their complaints?
I know that changes have been made to Mr. Osomatsu, and other shows that had BPO complaints, but were the changes made in response to the complaints?

Another thing that I am wondering about is this line in the article:
"According to the complaint, the scene featured a man teasing his brother after catching him masturbating."
It looks to me like the complaints were not about the fact that one character was masturbating, but rather the complaints were about the teasing.
Am I reading that wrong? If I am right then why would people complain about that?

Finally, the complaints said that ". . . the program should be more considerate of younger kids . . ."
What is it about that scene that might be inconsiderate of younger kids?
I don't get it.
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