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Merida
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Am i'm the only one who had to cringe a bit while reading this phrase, in light of recent events? Apart from that, a good review which mirrors my own feeling about the show pretty well. I'm usually not crazy about tragic moe girls but i've got a thing for sad robots and i like the characters and their relationship so far. |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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encrypted12345
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Planetarian is Key's shortest work and is the most atypical Key VN, even more so than Rewrite in my opinion. I hope Harmonia, a Key VN coming up with some similarities to Planetarian, is also good. @Merida People get hit by trucks every so often. It's nothing new, regardless if it happens to be advertised by the news and such. |
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Merida
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Really? Well, thanks for enlightening me. 
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Megiddo
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Yet another lovingly crafted solid adaptation for Yumemi's projection. I believe this is the first time we heard 'Gentle Jena' which is far and away the biggest fan favorite audio track from the original kinetic novel. Yumemi's unbridled optimism and hope for mankind's success at the conclusion of the special projection with her commentary only hit me yet again, and I've read that long monologue quite a number of times. I hope that the adaptation continues to excel, and I'm thrilled that it has brought back interest in the kinetic novel as well.
Also, I do love the continuous use of "reverie" in the subtitles. When I first read Planetarian that was actually the fan-translation's choice for Yumemi's name. So seeing it brought back after all these years was a nice wave of nostalgia. I do wonder if it was intended for old fans as I almost never see 'reverie' used in English conversation. |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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I don't know about that "whale", looks like a monitor lizard to me, and I thought this story was Greek.
I guess the translator/author was going for a more poetic interpretation of the dialog "sore ga chiisana watashi no yume desu" but I like a more literal reading "this is my little dream" rather than reverie, referring to the hope that Man will be able to solve his problems and that the beauty of the stars should guide people's hearts in the figurative darkest night toward a "brighter" future. I'd call that a "dream". I think in context the author was thinking that the subject was a rumination on the human condition, which would make her "dream"-ing a reverie. But her name Hoshino (Hoshi no) Yumemi literally means "dreaming of the stars". Interesting that the anime leaves out that the planetarium spoiler[was constructed the year man first set foot on Mars], but the way things are going I'm afraid that too is a dream that will never come true. 
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DuskyPredator
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I think it was pretty interesting scenes where we saw the shutters of her eyes foucusing as if trying to analyse him, showing an inhumane side of her, but that it was largely done in the context of wanting to help him. And also sad that she was not grasping that the power being out was a death sentence for her.
The moment she said she would escort him, essentially abandoning her directive, felt like a special place to finish the episode. |
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Stampeed Valkyrie
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My verdict on this is still out.
It almost feels like they very quickly skimmed over the entire time the Junker is in the planetarium. Maybe the VN just has more punch to it then the Anime so far. I like it, but some of the things that made the VN really good have been quickly skimmed over. my .02 cents |
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JaggedAuthor
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The artist commissioned to create the Flowercrest Department Store's slides seems to have confused whales with dragons.
EDIT: Whoops! Scrolled up to find someone already made note of this. |
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DuskyPredator
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On the whale or monster thing, old texts like the bible and such tend to get a bit weird with things like sea monsters. Of note has been the depiction of the Leviathan, which we kind of know as a sea monster synonymous with dragons or similar to what was depicted in the picture, but some accounts also connect it with supposed large whale, or that it is the Hebrew word for whale. It is kind of like how the Pokémon, Kyogre, which is based on the Leviathan, resembles a fusion of a monster and a whale.
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Thanks, DuskyPredator that is a good mental template. Leviathan (Hebrew Liv-yaw-thawn) is an interesting word for an animal who's identity has been lost to history and is first found in the Biblical "writings". In more modern times it has gotten assigned in Hebrew to refer to a whale basically because Hebrew had no specific word for whale and no one could think of any other large animal in the Mediterranean that would fit some of the description in Job ch41 (penned before 1000BC). However, Job mentions a strong neck, a large armored body and rows of very sharp teeth, which doesn't fit a whale. Linguistically, it is a variant of Lav-vaw which was an ancient root referring to something long that coils which led some scholars to think it synonymous with a "serpent" and supported by Isaiah 27. Adding to that are fanciful illustrations of the Middle Ages from those who obviously never saw one. I'm of the opinion that the description fits what we know as plesiosaurs which are still found off the coast of Japan occasionally, with very long necks and whale-like fins.
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Gina Szanboti
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Unless you mean fossils, I'm going to need a source on that that's not the Weekly World News or the Daily Mail and hasn't been debunked. 
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Key
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I visited the Adler Planetarium in Chicago a few times as a kid, and episode 3 evoked fond memories of those experiences. I found the spirit of the experience and the way it mixed with the symbolism and irony of what Yumemi was saying made for a beautiful combination, and the power outage allowed for the Tragic Girl aspect to filter in, too, without being heavy-handed. Also loved the shots of Yumemi's eyes and how they seemed to suggest that this inhuman creature had more faith in humanity than humans did.
Overall, I'd easily put this episode among the best I've seen so far this year from any series. |
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zrnzle500
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Saying that Nick and I have different ideas about what constitutes mediocre visuals is about as generous as I can be. Certainly in terms of direction and animation, it's not much to write home about, though I thought the Junker and the robot (tank? artillery?) was nice on both counts. Though on the animation front, given most of the show is two people (more or less) talking, this wasn't going to be an animation heavy show. There were enough shots of the background and enough variation in them (albeit within the bounds of ruined cityscape) that I didn't really get the same impression that they were actively trying to hide a limited amount of background art. To be honest, given their slow pace through the city, it would have been a bit jarring if the backgrounds changed too much too often. And as with the animation, given that the show takes place in a very limited setting, there wasn't going to be a huge variation in backgrounds anyhow. While not the best looking show this season (Zestiria in my opinion, but given that it is made my ufotable, being less going looking than it is no faint praise), I hardly think it is mediocre. And looking back at the previous episodes, especially episode 3, saying it has never been a beautiful show just seems wrong to me.
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Hiroki not Takuya
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But what? This is a thread about Planetarian! I cried a little on this week's episode and while C! says the pacing is uneven and slow, I believe the emotions this evokes shows there is genius as timing is everything in comedy and maybe pathos too. It is infuriating trying to explain something to a child who "really doesn't get it, but wants to" but if you yourself used to believe something different and want things to be different, that can cause great sadness upon the realization. I think that is how this story is working. Also, the artwork and character art I think is just fine as the less "finished" quality heightens the impression of a broken world and keeps the attention where it should be, on the character interaction and situation. The subtle variation in background music also works very well to heighten the emotions (thanks Togashi-san?) |
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