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REVIEW: Digimon Adventure tri. Episodes 9-13 Streaming

Aside from maybe Wizardmon's scene, all the other scenes you pointed to as "flawless" have the same issues you claim Tri does. There was zero reason for spoiler[Patamon to revert back to egg form after defeating Devimon given this never happened to the other Digimon when they evolved to adult form. It served no narrative purpose and there was never any explanation for it other than as an excuse for the writers to keep hyping Angemon's popularity up to sell toys.] Wargreymon's fight with BlackWarGreymon was one of the most inconsistent storylines in all of 02 to the point the writers completely forgot the Destiny Stones even existed after building up all this suspense about them so I would hardly call that fight "flawless" in execution. In regards to Machinedramon's fight, it certainly was a cool fight scene but not anymore so than any other Digimon fight. I think you're looking back at the franchise with nostalgia goggles. As much as I enjoy Digimon, it's always had cheap animation because Digimon is a toy commercial kid's show. It's not like Studio Ghibli level quality here and I don't think most fans expect it to be.

My other problem with this movie was how over sexualized they made the female Digimon in this movie be. Like Angewomon has always been kind of a fanservicey character but they always kept it appropriate and tasteful for the franchise. In this movie, it seemed like in every scene they kept flashing her butt or her boobs at us and that was very awkward. It felt a bit hypocritical to me too considering this was the reason Saban banned American Digimon fans from being able to buy that really nice Angewomon figure I know a lot of fans really wanted. So it's ok for us to have Angewomon fanservice flashed in front of us in every scene she's in this movie but it's not ok for us to buy a figure of her that's far more tamer than this movie? And was it really necessary for them to show us Meicoomon's boobs in her evolved form?

The point is Toei was the one who ultimately made the decision to give into Saban's demands and cancel the figure yet they also keep putting sexualized fanservice into Digimon to begin with.

So if they want Digimon to be seen as family friendly by international audiences, maybe they should stop putting so much boobs in it to begin with.

I couldn't disagree more with this positive review. While I can get where the analysis is coming from, personally, it seemed that the producers of this film felt content at letting our collective nostalgia for the series do the work for them.
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Also, don't get me started on the battle scenes and the disregard for the pre-established mechanics and logic. There was no proper build-up for the reveal of the Ultimate evolution for Tentomon. I get that they were trying to be "poignant" and "emotional", but man was that underwhelming. HeracleKabuterimon did not get any kick-ass fight sequences or even launch any attacks. What a horrendous shame.

This was worsened by the fact that they still felt the need to show off every single evolution sequence instead of letting them warp evolve to their Ultimate forms.

What was with that WarGreymon? Seriously? How is that possible without Taichi's input? Can they be any more blatant about this entire project being nothing more than nostalgia-bait with the sudden appearance of WarGreymon for absolutely no reason other than to artificially raise the stakes? Urgh.

- Didn't they see Hikari get taken over by the Digital World God before? Why is this new to them? What?

- That random digital gate and no questions of where that D-3 and D-Terminal came from. Was that Kens? They can open digital gates now? That's convenient.

There was zero reason for Patamon to revert back to egg form after defeating Devimon given this never happened to the other Digimon when they evolved to adult form. It served no narrative purpose and there was never any explanation for it other than as an excuse for the writers to keep hyping Angemon's popularity up to sell toys.

Also, don't get me started on the battle scenes and the disregard for the pre-established mechanics and logic. There was no proper build-up for the reveal of the Ultimate evolution for Tentomon. I get that they were trying to be "poignant" and "emotional", but man was that underwhelming. HeracleKabuterimon did not get any kick-ass fight sequences or even launch any attacks. What a horrendous shame. This was worsened by the fact that they still felt the need to show off every single evolution sequence instead of letting them warp evolve to their Ultimate forms.

What was with that WarGreymon? Seriously? How is that possible without Taichi's input? Can they be any more blatant about this entire project being nothing more than nostalgia-bait with the sudden appearance of WarGreymon for absolutely no reason other than to artificially raise the stakes? Urgh.

In fact, this movie's plot with the Virus, Royal Knights and Reboot is the X-Evolution movie, Tamers movie, end of Savers and Cyber Sleuth all over again!

Didn't they see Hikari get taken over by the Digital World God before? Why is this new to them? What?

That random digital gate and no questions of where that D-3 and D-Terminal came from. Was that Kens? They can open digital gates now? That's convenient.

Actar wrote:

I couldn't disagree more with this positive review. While I can get where the analysis is coming from, personally, it seemed that the producers of this film felt content at letting our collective nostalgia for the series do the work for them. [TLDR post removed]

Dude, you are too nitpicking and too overly attached to nostalgia Adventure and 02 which neither of them is perfect too. I can spend whole day bitching about how bad animation was compared to old series but I dont. I want to see more on good side about Tri rather find more faults and errors. After all this is mainly because of nostalgia anyway.

Actar wrote:

Also, don't get me started on the battle scenes and the disregard for the pre-established mechanics and logic. There was no proper build-up for the reveal of the Ultimate evolution for Tentomon. I get that they were trying to be "poignant" and "emotional", but man was that underwhelming. HeracleKabuterimon did not get any kick-ass fight sequences or even launch any attacks. What a horrendous shame.

Huh? This is explainable. Heraklekabuterimon was plan to bring them to backup field which is not his plan to beat them all out. Plus time is running out before Reboot occur so he just need to push them inside but its too late.

Actar wrote:

This was worsened by the fact that they still felt the need to show off every single evolution sequence instead of letting them warp evolve to their Ultimate forms.

Also easy explanation, Only Agumon and Gabumon capable to do warp evolution because of certain conditions back in older series. Other are just normal stage by stage evolution.

Actar wrote:

What was with that WarGreymon? Seriously? How is that possible without Taichi's input? Can they be any more blatant about this entire project being nothing more than nostalgia-bait with the sudden appearance of WarGreymon for absolutely no reason other than to artificially raise the stakes? Urgh.

Evolution doesnt need partner consent. Else why partner-less Leomon can evolve to Saberleomon? And Ken can dark-evolve Agumon to Skullgreymon/Metalgreymon-Virus despite he is not Agumon partner?

Actar wrote:

- Didn't they see Hikari get taken over by the Digital World God before? Why is this new to them? What?

Which part look new? They only said Hikari is looking weird. Pretty sure they know Hikari is special and Tailmon know more about her(see Dark Ocean arc).

2) Aren't Agumon and Gabumon the only ones capable of Warp-Evolving thanks to the whole "arrow" thing back in Adventure season 1? Everybody else has to go in order, from what I remember. The only case I know of where the rest of the cast can warp evolve too is the Adventure PSP game.

X-Evo and end of Savers though? Just because something includes spoiler[ Royal Knights in-fighting ] doesn't mean its the same.

Er, wait. You do know the X-Evolution movie was about spoiler[resetting the Digimon world, killing off Digimon with the X-Virus,] right? Or am I mistaken? The Royal Knights just drive home the similarities.

Dude, Digimon franchise is always been sexualized. See Digimon Savers, Rosemon oversized boobs juggling like in Tri and having lot of erotic pose.
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2) Aren't Agumon and Gabumon the only ones capable of Warp-Evolving thanks to the whole "arrow" thing back in Adventure season 1? Everybody else has to go in order, from what I remember. The only case I know of where the rest of the cast can warp evolve too is the Adventure PSP game.

Hime hasn't let them down once (as far as they know, though the audience knows that's not the case.) so I see no reason why they'd question it. For all they know, they could easily be her's (which is what I'm betting personally, given how they seem to be cranking up the mystery surrounding Hime and how she knows far more than she's letting on) As spoiler[ the Reboot did essentially rewind time, ] the Gate was probably usable again and given that it was a D3, we know that they can open Gates (given that's the entire crux of what happens in early "After-School-Adventures 02.")

Oh my goodness, can't you see the contradiction in your statement or is it just me? You blame me for being overly nostalgic but want to "see more on the good side about Tri" because of nostalgia? What?

Also, come on people. Do you guys even read what I say? When have I ever stated that I wanted tri. to follow the original? When? I spent half the time complaining about how tri. wasn't actually doing something new and was relying on the original too much. If anything, I want it to be its own thing! The only time I ever referenced the original was those specific scenes and how they were constructed to specifically prove ONE POINT. Yes, the originals had horrendous flaws and I'm not denying any of them. In fact, I'd be the first to admit them. But that's not relevant to this discussion, is it? ...talk about indignation.

The Complete Selection Digivice, which was supposed to be a replica version of the Digivice from tri. has all the Warp Evolution sounds in it and no Ultimate Evolution sounds. This is one of the reasons why I was especially annoyed, because it was sold to us fans as being "Complete".

If your response to my post is "Digimon has always been sexualized therefore sexism is ok!" you need to go back and actually read my post again. I don't care if you're into Digimon porn or not which apparently you must be but please actually respond to the points I actually made. Even Jake pointed out in his review of the first Tri movie that Tri is far more sexualized than any previous Digimon but I guess he's misinformed about the history of Digimon too.

Even Jake pointed out in his review of the first Tri movie that Tri is far more sexualized than any previous Digimon but I guess he's misinformed about the history of Digimon too.

Hikarunu wrote:

Dude, Digimon franchise is always been sexualized. See Digimon Savers, Rosemon oversized boobs juggling like in Tri and having lot of erotic pose. .

If your response to my post is "Digimon has always been sexualized therefore sexism is ok!" you need to go back and actually read my post again. I don't care if you're into Digimon porn or not which apparently you must be but please actually respond to the points I actually made. Even Jake pointed out in his review of the first Tri movie that Tri is far more sexualized than any previous Digimon but I guess he's misinformed about the history of Digimon too.

My definition of nostalgia is different than you, I prefer more old nostalgia things with new plot and some new/refreshed Digimon while keeping faithful to franchise. Your post were saying why other Digimon didn't get Warp Evolution like Agumon and Gabumon did. Thats sound like you really want nostalgia thing too, no? I thought you prefer new things? The 1st movie is really bad but the 3rd one is bad too? Come on at least they tried but what you did is nitpicking every small details like they dont deserve second chance. What the hell. I dont saying 3rd movie is perfect but its definitely better than previous one.

See? You do complaining because the lack of nostalgia.. You expect same things happened to other too? CSA Digivice is not 100% accurate to anime. Most fans already debating whether Tailmon's Ultimate Evolution will be Holydramon or Ophanimon in Tri. CSA Digivice is Holydramon while PSP game is Ophanimon. Its already inconsistent in the 1st place

I couldn't disagree more with this positive review. While I can get where the analysis is coming from, personally, it seemed that the producers of this film felt content at letting our collective nostalgia for the series do the work for them.

None of the character interactions felt natural or convincing. The whole "keeping secrets" is a tired and well-worn trope that kept the movie from actually progressing any further and giving the characters actual space to communicate and develop. Heck, Koushiro came up with the back-up plan because Tentomon spilled the beans! But we can't have them actually figuring out a solution together, can we? I argue that the emotions could have been better developed if both parties knew that their time together was limited. This way, we could have seen how the all of the chosen children would have dealt with the grief of parting. This lack of any emotional catharsis is further denied when we jump ahead in time and are prevented from actually seeing the grieving process.

While one can argue that "that was the point", at this point, it served to achieve nothing that we haven't already experienced before when they had to leave their partners behind in the original series. Their lack of communication felt forced and overwrought and seemed to be nothing more than a contrived way of generating tears, while at the same time delaying any plot progression.

I also found it really bizarre that Takeru didn't receive more attention. Yes, the scenes with Patamon were well handled, but they could have been developed so much more. For instance, there were absolutely zero references to Takeru's trauma from Angemon's demise. By focusing on this pair more, it would have made it a far more personal story. Was it assumed knowledge? Perhaps. But to me, it was indicative of how this movie was just trying to ride the coattails of the original instead of being its own thing.

If not for the nostalgia, can you honestly say that the movies have done anything to make you care for these characters? They are all completely unsympathetic.

Thank goodness there wasn't any cop-out with them getting back their memories at the end of the movie. At least all that emotional buildup wasn't a complete waste. They're obviously going to get them back eventually (because they need to bait people to watch the movie by shoehorning in more Ultimate Evolutions), but at least we're left wondering for now. I really pray that we get to see the consequences of this before they get their memories back though. Like how they re-develop their bonds to prove their innate friendship.

Speaking of contrived, the complete lack of care and concern that they're showing for the 02 children is disconcerting to say the least and it appears to be nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt at artificially dragging out the mystery even further. Were any questions that were raised in the previous movie answered? More time should be devoted to at least developing or moving the mystery so that we as the viewer can remain invested in it and feel NOT ignorant of the situation. What's the point to any of this? I am not asking for everything to be revealed immediately, but the lack of any answers or movement during this particular movie was frustrating to say the least. If any other movie series did this, it would have been destroyed for its poor pacing, for keeping audiences in the dark for so long and for the lack of plot development.

Also, don't get me started on the battle scenes and the disregard for the pre-established mechanics and logic. There was no proper build-up for the reveal of the Ultimate evolution for Tentomon. I get that they were trying to be "poignant" and "emotional", but man was that underwhelming. HeracleKabuterimon did not get any kick-ass fight sequences or even launch any attacks. What a horrendous shame. This was worsened by the fact that they still felt the need to show off every single evolution sequence instead of letting them warp evolve to their Ultimate forms.

What was with that WarGreymon? Seriously? How is that possible without Taichi's input? Can they be any more blatant about this entire project being nothing more than nostalgia-bait with the sudden appearance of WarGreymon for absolutely no reason other than to artificially raise the stakes? Urgh.

Take some time to have a look back at some scenes from the original. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING from these movies have evoked the same level of emotional response that these scenes have. They are beautiful in their construction and flawless in their execution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rHSmq-K7V0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m71HJZKdqzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChTGKYkivfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCuBj8ozC4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiTsilPMraE

That's not to say I want everything to be the same. Far from it. When I feel the original does something better, I think it's more than fair to point that out. For instance, let's take a look at the evolution scenes. The original made each higher-level evolution scene more bombastic than the last to emphasize the excitement and growth in power with a visual spectacle to match. With tri., all we have is the same white background with the same golden rings. That's boring. Do I want them to have the same evolution scenes as the original? Heck no. I want them to make each higher-level evolution scene more bombastic than the last in whatever new way they can!

In fact, this movie's plot with the Virus, Royal Knights and Reboot is the X-Evolution movie, Tamers movie, end of Savers and Cyber Sleuth all over again!

Before I end off, a couple of plot holes/questions:

- Didn't they see Hikari get taken over by the Digital World God before? Why is this new to them? What?

- That random digital gate and no questions of where that D-3 and D-Terminal came from. Was that Kens? They can open digital gates now? That's convenient.