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EP. REVIEW: Dragon Ball Super

I expect there's going to be a moment during the tournament where Goku is somehow incapacitated (healing in the pod at Namek, got a heart disease, is dead) and the rest of the team will need to keep him protected while also pushing towards victory.

Marimo0 wrote:

I expect there's going to be a moment during the tournament where Goku is somehow incapacitated (healing in the pod at Namek, got a heart disease, is dead) and the rest of the team will need to keep him protected while also pushing towards victory.

This is why they NEED to show there's different kinds of "strength", because these are always SUPER obvious "killing time" and usually incredibly DUMB. Also, the concept that "most players active" means its not all about "power" is wrong since DB has constantly shown that the "best" guy can take out most (all?) of the "lower" guys by himself easily:
-Goku v Ginyu Force
-Frieza v Z fighters (sans Goku)
-Androids & Cell v Z Fighters
-Buu v pretty much everyone

You need to show that there's a way that it's BELIEVABLE that say Krillin or 18 could at LEAST beat Vegeta, or the whole thing in people's minds is always just gonna be "Can Goku beat the top guy? because everyone else is clearly just fodder.

Our heroes only have forty hours to put their team together, but Goku sure seems to be taking his time.

There are a lot of teases and ideas that would strike me as more interesting if they were practiced in the middle of tournament itself, instead of every little thing being prepped ahead of time. I'm imagining a version of this recruitment process where Goku, Gohan, and Beerus just round everyone up in one place, tell them the story, and get it all over with. This one-at-a-time thing feels very artificial.

Next week's episode seems to be the No. 17 recruitment one, and it looks great so far. This recruitment arc is doing a respectable job keeping things varied between comedy, family moments, smart fighting, and all-out brawls as the characters spar and warm up for the upcoming tournament, but it's currently standing on thin ice with me. There are a lot of factors that prevent me from seeing this time spent as crucial, even from a purely structural point of view rather than a "there's only so much time in the day" sort of way. There are a lot of teases and ideas that would strike me as more interesting if they were practiced in the middle of tournament itself, instead of every little thing being prepped ahead of time. I'm imagining a version of this recruitment process where Goku, Gohan, and Beerus just round everyone up in one place, tell them the story, and get it all over with. This one-at-a-time thing feels very artificial.

how is 17 alive when one whole world was gone with the cell

One thing that bugged me was 17 saying his family is not on the island but he doesn't leave the island *side eyes*

So when the heck does he sees his family? Do they come to him? Ugh, it feels like a cop out because for whatever reason they couldn't show them, especially after he shows them to Goku on his phone but we DIDN'T GET TO SEE.

Anyone else notice that when 17 said he knew Trunks, he was referring to Future Trunks?

princess passa passa wrote:

One thing that bugged me was 17 saying his family is not on the island but he doesn't leave the island *side eyes* So when the heck does he sees his family? Do they come to him? Ugh, it feels like a cop out because for whatever reason they couldn't show them, especially after he shows them to Goku on his phone but we DIDN'T GET TO SEE.

*WHY* didn't we see the picture of 17's family? Speculation time!:
Theory 1. (Saw this on another forum) 17's wife & 3 kids (2 are adopted) live on another, nearby island. Dende mentions that Uub lives on a nearby island...Could Uub be one of 17's adopted kids?
Proofs against: 1. in the DBZ finale, Uub said he entered the tournament to earn money for his starving home village on an island nation. Doubt he would need the money if he was adopted by a rich park ranger... (although considering how little family & friends seem to help each other out in this world, maybe he would feel like he needs to make money for his bio family/home village on his own...) 2. If 17 was even nominally raising Uub, he'd probably be able to train him, too, and Goku wouldn't have to fly off with him later.
Theory 2: 17's wife is someone we'd recognize...maybe a super independent lady, like Tights? Proofs for: You'd think we'd know if two prominent character's siblings were married to one another, but no one seems to communicate with family in this society unless they live near them. 18 didn't know where her twin brother lived, Bulma didn't mention Tights to her own husband 'till she had to call her for a favor a few arcs ago. (And Tarble--less said about him, the better! ) Proofs against: That'd be almost too convenient...
I do hope they obscured the details of 17's family because there's some interesting reveal behind them. At the very least, his adopted kids (and/or wife) better be aliens!
Going back to a rant I've been saving from an earlier ep- Whis's actions seemed really wrong when he just went and teleported Bra out of Bulma's womb without explanation or warning. On the other hand, Bulma's hardly upset about a virtually consequence free painless birth (even the best Cesarian sections leave weeks long recovery times and ugly scars). Totally calling BS on her not having any leftover baby weight, tho!
Bra is an awful name, no matter how you slice it. Gotta agree with Vegeta here. Shoulda gone with Eschallotte!

since I can't think of a good reason why they should be pushing the Tournament of Power back so much

The Super anime is already ahead of the manga in terms of story, so it's not like we're waiting for more material to adapt.

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The Super anime is already ahead of the manga in terms of story, so it's not like we're waiting for more material to adapt.

Quite the opposite, on the contrary.

I'm surprised no one mentioned this, but it was already stated several months back by the Jump Staff (or maybe it was Toei, I forgot who exactly) that this arc was going to have a lot of filler in order for the manga to catch up. In fact, it was also stated that the manga was contractually obligated to finish before the anime does, and that the manga actually WILL surpass the anime just like it did when the manga first started.