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Blood-
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I don't really consider Hanabi and Mugi to be scum, either. I see them as young, mixed up kids who have gone down a dangerous emotional path, but for kind of understandable reasons. Hanabi isn't grooving on Moka's "pain" over Mugi. Hanabi certainly wasn't aware of Moka when she started up with Mugi and there is zero indication that Mugi would have been interested in Moka even if Hanabi wasn't around. (I adore Moka, too, ever since the flashback episode where she was protesting Hanabi being partnered with "Onii-chan" for the two-legged race and Hanabi pointed out that her running shoes weren't kosher, either, causing Moka to involuntarily cross her arms and made that "geh" sound of being busted).
We haven't seen enough of Onii-chan to know if he is scum yet. So really, it's just Music Sensei Turd and Predatory Lesbo (gee, I'm going to take advantage of the fact that you care for me as a friend to physically take advantage of you, yay!) who are the obvious scums right now. |
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Chiibi
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RIGHT? I hate her so much. 
Yeah, her and Akane are the worst people in the series. Well, Akane's the worst of the worst but.....I was really offended how Ecchan tries to sugarcoat her really selfish predatory lust as "love". Few things make me angrier than that. Akane's just a straight-up bitch...but at least she is honest when confronted about it. lol Yay, Moka-chan needs more fans; let us protect her together! :3 |
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DuskyPredator
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Lets not forget in this situation that Hanabi was kind of being terrible back as somewhat egging Ecchan on to try and physically.... relieve (is that the right word) herself, filling in the hole (giggity) while not holding those feelings for her.
Okay, lets separate the two. Ecchan used Hanabi's feelings of friendship to and not wanting to ruin that to make her give into advances and sleep with her. Hanabi used Ecchan's feelings of love to get her to give affection while Hanabi really does not see her that way, she just wanted to feel someone who loved her. They are both coming from two different ways and it is easy to call fowl on the "predator" who used emotions to fill lesbian desire, but turn it upside down and you see a "temptress" who kind of used lesbian desires to fill emotions. Hanabi ran up to Ecchan and hugged her, she indeed said she did not know what this level of intimacy would feel to Ecchan, but I argue that Hanabi still did it that it might be too much for Ecchan to resist. It does not mean its healthy, they both wrong for different reasons. Yeah you can argue sexual predator, that is a crime and all that, but Hanabi was kind of doing what awful sensei was doing in kind of getting off on love from another without any of those feelings. Maybe it looks like I am trying to defend a "lesbian predator", and that looks horrible, but Hanabi was not entirely innocent here. Scum all around. We are all free to dislike and like the characters. I understand why some might have stronger feelings against one. |
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Yttrbio
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While I wouldn't nominate these folks for "model human being of the year," I've been impressed by how compelling the presentation of their thoughts were. I can't really relate to this kind of sexual acting out (Stick to porn, kids!), but the show has done such a good job of making their emotions real and understandable.
Until Akane. It didn't make sense at all. Did it make sense to everyone else? I mean, I heard the words (though again, the translation is not doing this show any favors), but they didn't come together in a way that seemed like an expression of someone's personal feelings, rather than the brain of a writer. |
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Chiibi
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@Dusky: Oh, I'm not saying Hanabi's totally innocent.....I'm just.......just really angry at Ecchan....and you'll see why later down the road, I'm sure.
I can't relate to Akane at all....but she's a total sadist and a sex addict; that's all you really need to know about her. lol I get what you mean. It's not the show's fault; it's Mengo's for sure, because I got the same feeling when I read the chapters pertaining to this episode. Akane is an odd one. I can't really understand her feelings. Maybe most of us can't because we're too good of people. Maybe you have to be really rotten like Akane to get inside her head.....? I'm not sure but her whole character is like "....haha wut?" Her actions would make more sense if she had a personal grudge against Hanabi.....or if she just really liked sex so much that she took every man who offered cause she can't stop. But it's not like that.
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Galap
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I think it's a lot less interesting for Akane to be intentionally malicious, and I'm a little disappointed they went down that route, especially since everyone else's motivations are very even-handed and nuanced.
Even so, I really liked the Ecchan stuff there. It goes to show how strong the compulsion to, as Dusky put it, physically relieve onself can be, and how often it clouds the judgment and makes people (and I'm talking about both Ecchan and Hanabi here) do things they maybe shouldn't in the long run when they see an opportunity. |
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Stark700
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So Akane reveals her true nature..the malicious side of her personality that I'm sure few knows about. Well Hanabi sees through her. I love the little bits of mind games between the two. I bet the teacher is clueless about Akane's true nature at the moment.
Can't wait to see how much they plan to expand this drama. |
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Blood-
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Well, if I had to play armchair pyschologist with Akane ... she lays it out pretty succinctly in her internal thoughts (which isn't particularly realistic; most of us are not usually that self-aware about what our damage is). As I said earlier, she's not just your run-of-the-mill narcissist. If she was, she could get off on just inspiring desire in men. But with her it goes a step further. Not only does she have to be desired by men, but those men have to be desired by other women and she has to see the hurt on their faces when those men chose her over them. That's where the sadism comes in. As she said, she never wants to be "exploited" the way her friend who she bladed was exploited, so maybe that's the underpinning of this grotesque behaviour. Sort of, "I'll do the exploiting so that I'll never be the one exploited."
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Chiibi
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Actually, that makes PERFECT sense to me now, Blood.
There are probably people like that in the real world....but I'm priviledged enough to not know any. lol |
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AsuraTheDestructor
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I wonder if the reason Jacob Chapman takes so long to put up reviews of this series is because he has something to say.
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Chiibi
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Episode 05
"I don't need him." *eats Mugi's face* The make-out sessions are getting really hot now. And they almost made it to C.
But as you can see, Hanabi is really starting to break. D: I don't get why I can't hate Akane. She is a two-faced bitch and by all rights I should....but she's like....almost amusing with her inner thoughts. "BORINGBORINGBORINGBORING". Also, I'm strongly liking the OP by now. Excuse me while I go to totally legally acquire it. 
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DuskyPredator
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Well maybe a reason to hate Akane is that it now looks like she totally seduced Mugi, putting on moves on his adolescent age to make him fall in love with her. She is like a step away from a rapist in not understanding why someone would be worried and feel the need to get clear permission to sleep with someone under the influence of alcohol.
There are people out there who find everything boring and would burn things down just to remove some boredom, and I have never found that sort of thing constructive, especially if they have to cause pain to someone else to not feel bored. And I kind of get the feeling she might start to abuse the good nature of her new fling to remove some boredom. |
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Blood-
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I have to say I kind of agree with Akane: "What do you see in him, Hana-chan?" Sure, he was there for her when she was going through the absence of her father, but yeesh. That guy's a stiff. I very much want Akane to get some kind of comeuppance but I'm not sure this is the kind of show that will trade in that kind of satisfying outcome. The reality is that horrible people like Akane don't always get what they deserve and this show is fairly realistic.
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Chiibi
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Ugh. That is so true. 
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AsuraTheDestructor
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Whelp, things are getting worse for everyone in ep 6......
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