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Night fox
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Then who was Orihime "originally" supposed to end up with - what was her purpose? Why did Kubo make her a main character in the first place, especially since most of her actions and decisions throughout the show were centered around Ichigo? Both Rukia and Orihime did play the part of "Damsel in distress" in different story arcs, where Ichigo rode in on his white horse, in shin- well in his black Shihakusho, to save the day. It doesn't seem like either Ichigo, or Rukia, are romantically interrested in anyone on the show though, Rukia has Renji following her around like a lapdog, and Ichigo has Orihime pining for him 24/7, but it is mostly one-sided. Rukia's interrest in Ichigo might just be that he reminds her of Kaien and their unresolved issues. |
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Chiibi
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I don't believe in love at first sight either lol it's crap. But unrequited love can be the purest example of what love is really about when it's written decently. And I certainly don't mean by stalking (because I despise that trope). I mean how this character will put his love's happiness before anything else, including his own feelings. Because true love is unselfish that way. I also don't really agree that time should be an important factor when it comes to characters loving each other; experience is what matters the most. In fact, if you've spent TOO much time around another person; especially at a young age, it will probably start to feel weird to look at them in that way. lol
WOW, man, you may want to fix that! Many people agree Disney's best work came much later: 1990s, and then later 2000s.
Being modern isn't going to change romantic views that much. It depends on how the individual feels. There are still tons of romantic stories being written today that take place today and they are written like fairytales with happy endings. @Night fox: Lol fanservice. I've always liked the idea of Orihime x Ishida far more anyway. |
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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Since you asked... IMO, the initial pairings were supposed to be IchigoXRukia and OrihimeXUryu. There are several occasions where it seemed that Uryu was paying a great deal of attention to Orihime, and it is especially noticeable once they reach the Soul Society. I thought that Renji had had his chance with Rukia, and blown it. But Rukia and Ichigo seemed to share a special wavelength with one another that no one else was able to touch, which is why several people thought they were an item (including that one Soul Reaper that is originally sent to bring Rukia back home).
I can't think of anywhere in the series that Ichigo showed any particular interest or closeness to Orihime. I do think that initially Rukia's interest in Ichigo was due to their similar appearance and personality, but she hung out with Ichigo long enough, IMO, for her to separate the two. I'm sort of disappointed they didn't end up together, to be honest. |
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Chiibi
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Hail Fellow Believer!! I'm very glad there are more of us. If those weren't the initial pairs from the beginning, the series was very misleading. |
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Alan45
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Chiibi wrote:
I can't argue here. I should clarify that I meant time spent as a couple. Too much time spent around another, either as a friend or as a childhood friend is likely to make the move to a romantic relationship impossible. Usually that becomes possible only if they have spent a substantial period out of touch and see the other from a new viewpoint. It may be just me, but I think unrequited love is just stupid. I never managed to sustain an interest in someone once I found out it wasn't going anywhere. I think in real life a sustained infatuation with someone who is unavailable is likely to serve some other agenda, such as an excuse to quit trying to find a significant other. |
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Chiibi
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Stay far away from Nagi No Asukara then; it's nothing but. And it gets kind of irritating.
I don't like it because I can relate to it; rather I'm envious of what it's like to love someone that much. I only like it because we get to see how far someone will go for another person; even if they expect nothing in return. I admire that degree of dedication and selflessness. |
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louis6578
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Shounen is usually bad at romance anyway. The best examples of shounen romances are ones that don't REALLY try to be romantic and are more about pre-established relationships, like Fist of the North Star's main couple. Other things like Jonathan and Erina are good only because it's simple enough and in the background enough that you can just sort of assume that the characters are good for each other. Shounen Jump's attempts at actual romance are terrible at worst (though it's not Shounen Jump, Rumiko Takahashi's works, especially Ranma 1/2, are particularly bad) and inoffensive at best (Keiko and Yusuke was... okay, I guess). It's part of why I love One Piece. Oda specifically stated that he will NEVER have any of the main characters engage in a serious romantic arc, and that they're all just friends/platonic family. They're in love with adventure. He feels that adding romance would detract from the adventure of the story and put off his primary demographic of pre-teen boys.
Even when the OTP of a Shounen Jump couple is something that I agree with, they usually aren't given any time to properly develop, only skipping to some epilogue of "and then they lived happily ever after" once the main storyline is done. I'm looking at Naruto and Hinata when I say this. With all that said, it should be no surprise that Bleach, widely considered to be the worst of the popular Shounen Jump anime, has the worst romance and most shoehorned in main couple. Weirdly enough, plenty of shounen-feeling stories that aren't technically Shounen Jump have passable romances, like Eureka 7, Durarara, Baccano, and hell, for all its problems, even Fate/Stay Night gets Romance right regardless of who the girl in the particular version you're watching is. |
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Alan45
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Chiibi wrote:
Have no fear, I tried that and couldn't get through the first episode. I found all the characters irritating and the basic premise rather silly. |
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Chiibi
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Depends on the type. If romance is actually part of the genre, I've seen some decent portrayals.... |
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louis6578
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Such as...? ^^;; |
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Chiibi
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Rom-coms, harem, dramas? Come on, man. lol shounen is a demographic. You can't just say "an entire demographic is bad at romance". It just isn't true. We're talking about thousands of titles here? |
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louis6578
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I tried making it pretty clear that I mainly meant Shounen Jump. True, using Ranma 1/2 as an example ruined that point, but the rest was pure Jump. Find one Shounen Jump anime that has particularly good romance and I'll get over my PTSD from the Fushigi Yuugi OVAs. |
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Raftina
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Scrolling through the list of manga serialized in Weekly Shonen Jump, I spotted just 4 series that are primarily romance or rom-com:
Kimagure Orange Road I"s Ichigo 100% Nisekoi It is a rather low count for a magazine that has been running about 50 years, but these do not include series that merely feature romance. Out of these, I believe Kimagure Orange Road is very highly-regarded, not just as a whole but in particular its romance aspect: ANN, THEM, Nihon Review |
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louis6578
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I saw a little of Orange Road and thought it was... meh. Pretty much some Urusei Yatsura level of sitcom. It wasn't bad, but the romance wasn't particularly good either. And it has that thing with love triangles in anime where I prefer the girl who WONT win. Oh well. I haven't seen the other two, but Nisekoi is NOT a particularly good or decent romance anime. I guess I'll have to start reading Ichigo 100% to see if that's a good one. |
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Cam0
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Hatsukoi Limited also ran on Weekly Shounen Jump. I at least found the anime more enjoyable than Ichigo 100% (same author) and I think Hatsukoi Limited is a pretty good anime overall.
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