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NEWS: Shinkai's 'your name.' Tops Spirited Away as Highest Grossing Anime Film Worldwide


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Egan Loo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:53 am Reply with quote
Kougeru wrote:
This is so inaccurate. Why don't these sites adjust for inflation? Spirited Away, adjusted, made $374,733,643. So yeah, not really even that close yet.

edit: I used http://www.boxofficemojo.com for my numbers and various inflation calculators to ensure I got the right outcome. Boxofficemojo normally also does not (normally*) adjust for inflation which is how I knew that number was unadjusted: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=spiritedaway.htm


The vast majority of the revenues for Spirited Away and your name. came from Japan, where the cumulative inflation rate in the entire 15 years from 2001 (Spirited Away) to 2016 (your name.) was only 1.45%. By comparison, the United States' cumulative rate during those 15 years was 35.49%.

http://fxtop.com/en/inflation-calculator.php?A=100&C1=JPY&INDICE=JPCPI2010&DD1=20&MM1=07&YYYY1=2001&DD2=03&MM2=07&YYYY2=2016&btnOK=Compute+actual+value

During several years from 2001 to 2016, Japan actually experienced negative inflation -- deflation.

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*They do have a section for top grossing movies adjusted for inflation, but it only shows the top 100 so Spirited Away wasn't on it.


Box Office Mojo only has an inflation-adjusted chart for the U.S. box office, because as demonstrated with Japan, other countries have different rates of inflation or even deflation. This is the inflation-adjusted chart for the United States only:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
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KaitouX



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:29 am Reply with quote
Kougeru wrote:
This is so inaccurate. Why don't these sites adjust for inflation? Spirited Away, adjusted, made $374,733,643. So yeah, not really even that close yet.

edit: I used http://www.boxofficemojo.com for my numbers and various inflation calculators to ensure I got the right outcome. Boxofficemojo normally also does not (normally*) adjust for inflation which is how I knew that number was unadjusted: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=spiritedaway.htm

*They do have a section for top grossing movies adjusted for inflation, but it only shows the top 100 so Spirited Away wasn't on it.
Why you're applying USA inflation to Japanese numbers?
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AsuraTheDestructor



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:36 am Reply with quote
It's interesting to see a non hayao Miyazaki esque anime do so well world wide.

Basically, it looks more like what people think of as anime then Miyazaki, yet it's doing so well.

I can see anime as a whole become more mainstream if it does this well in the rest of the territories it opens in. Which I'm all for.
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Kutsu



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:16 pm Reply with quote
relyat08 wrote:
It's interesting to see how much the global market for anime, and films in general, has increased. Spirited Away has now been surpassed even though it brought in like 8 billion more yen domestically. It just didn't have much pull outside of Japan back then, where as now Your Name is cruising world wide. Crazy. It'll be interesting to see how much the US is able to add. Maybe another 10 million at most?


A large part of that is due to the Chinese market expanding. It has grown tenfold since 2001.
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relyat08



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:51 pm Reply with quote
^Exactly. I'd be very interested to see how much Spirited Away made in China, if it was even released.
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Bullza



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:57 pm Reply with quote
Actually this is completely wrong. This as well as the source they are using are getting their box office figures from Box Office Mojo and that site has highly inaccurate figures because of the way they convert the overseas grosses.

Just take a look at this

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&country=JP&id=yourname.htm

By November 6 it had grossed $174 million in Japan and yet despite making millions more over the next few weeks by November 27 it had made...$172 million.

That's because they take the total gross each week and convert it rather than stacking it on which causes these problems.

In truth the movie has actually made $331 million worldwide and surpassed Spirited Away ages ago.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Kimi-no-na-wa-(Japan)#tab=summary
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Egan Loo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:32 pm Reply with quote
Bullza wrote:
Actually this is completely wrong. This as well as the source they are using are getting their box office figures from Box Office Mojo and that site has highly inaccurate figures because of the way they convert the overseas grosses.

Just take a look at this

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&country=JP&id=yourname.htm

By November 6 it had grossed $174 million in Japan and yet despite making millions more over the next few weeks by November 27 it had made...$172 million.

That's because they take the total gross each week and convert it rather than stacking it on which causes these problems.

In truth the movie has actually made $331 million worldwide and surpassed Spirited Away ages ago.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Kimi-no-na-wa-(Japan)#tab=summary


The Numbers website has its own issues. The Numbers listed the film at US$284.8 million on January 13 -- meaning it increased by US$46.8 million in only 4 days, even though only two countries (Australia, South Korea) and "Rest of the World" are listed as updated in those days, and the updates don't add up to that number.

Bing's January 13 cache of The Numbers:
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=http%3a%2f%2fwww.the-numbers.com%2fmovie%2fKimi-no-na-wa-(Japan)%23tab%3dsummary+&d=4861307610275906&mkt=ja-JP&setlang=en-US&w=-CK-ZDZoNrSiqs6jjkd9q1iuXyLc3apo#tab=summary

In any case, The Numbers listed your name. as surpassing Spirited Away in this past week -- just as the ANN article says -- and not ages ago.
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Bullza



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:50 pm Reply with quote
All these box office sites have issues however The Numbers at least has the most accurate gross.

They had Your Name as grossing $276 million over a month ago on December 14 which surpassed Spirited Away's $275 million so it wasn't within the last week.
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Shirohae



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:26 pm Reply with quote
Can this movie die already? lol
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Ambimunch



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:42 pm Reply with quote
Miyazaki now confirmed to come back from retirement to reclaim his throne? :p
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:11 pm Reply with quote
When I think about Makoto Shinkai, the only thing that comes to mind is "poor bastard". Next time he pitches any movie project, the investors will want "another blockbuster" and chances are his next film will not be as successful, so even if any further films make a profit, investors will be disappointed, this kind of success can lead a man to suicide, google George "not christopher" Reeves for such an example.
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Heishi



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:32 pm Reply with quote
Wow, nice job "Your Name".
I will have to check this movie out!
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Kyosuke_



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:08 pm Reply with quote
mangamuscle wrote:
When I think about Makoto Shinkai, the only thing that comes to mind is "poor bastard". Next time he pitches any movie project, the investors will want "another blockbuster" and chances are his next film will not be as successful, so even if any further films make a profit, investors will be disappointed, this kind of success can lead a man to suicide, google George "not christopher" Reeves for such an example.


I thought this too at first, but then I remembered that he's associated with Comix Wave films which is a small independent animation film studio. He's thus far been able to make films that he wants and as long as he doesn't sell himself or studio to a big corporate entity, he should still have a significant amount of independence without worrying about the profit margins..
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Jayhosh



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:12 pm Reply with quote
Shirohae wrote:
Can this movie die already? lol


Can salty comments like yours die already? I feel like I've seen this same comment from you like five times at this point. Why in the world would you want such an unparalleled success for the anime industry to stop making money? This can only be a good thing for the industry as a whole. It might actually bring more well-earned attention to the medium as a whole. The logic of mentalities such as yours always escapes me.
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Stuart Smith



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:03 am Reply with quote
SquadmemberRitsu wrote:
I just now realised that this movie hasn't even come out in the US. Its reign of terror isn't even done yet..
Its performance in the US is probably not going to be that noticeable compared to Asian markets. It's the East that's going to define this movie. Don't be surprised when the Emoji Movie and Boss Baby outperform it here.

-Stuart Smith
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