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Chiibi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:37 pm Reply with quote
Eh, when I hear a series is going to be animated by Madhouse, Kyoani, or P.A. Works, my expectations jump pretty high; I think most will agree.

Konosuba's art style was fine but the character animation was so cheap and god-awful, I could not watch it. Even if it was meant to "be on purpose", like its fans defend, it was distracting and I hated looking at it. Rolling Eyes
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Cam0



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:56 pm Reply with quote
I sort of like Konosuba's sloppy animation. It fits the show's lighthearted nature. I don't like really unique or weird looking art styles like Kemonozume or Ping Pong.
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Chiibi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:10 pm Reply with quote
Cam0 wrote:
I sort of like Konosuba's sloppy animation. It fits the show's lighthearted nature. I don't like really unique or weird looking art styles like Kemonozume or Ping Pong.


There are other light-hearted shows that do fine without the derp faces. Rolling Eyes It feels more like either "We didn't have enough money" or "We just didn't care enough".

But yeah, I wouldn't touch Ping Pong with a ten-foot pole. Ew.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:18 pm Reply with quote
Chiibi wrote:
Konosuba's art style was fine but the character animation was so cheap and god-awful, I could not watch it. Even if it was meant to "be on purpose", like its fans defend, it was distracting and I hated looking at it. Rolling Eyes


Yeah, that's the thing missed by the questioner... The current controversy isn't about the art style, but about the low quality of the character animation (and then on top of that, veering off model every third cut).
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SkerllyF



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:35 pm Reply with quote
I think that part of "a studio has X look" is subjective, because in the case of adaptations, the character designer has to refine the source´s designs for animation. With a character designer working for adaptations and original series, you don´t have a way to say that he/she has a personal style. The same happens with the studio because they have different character designers and art directors
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mgosdin



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:40 pm Reply with quote
Then there's Kyoani's work on this season's Mrs Kobyashi's Dragon Maid, they've hewed pretty close to the managaka's original work for most of the character designs except for Touhru the Dragon Maid herself. There they went with a somewhat more traditional Kyoani type look. I find it jarring, TBH.

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kinghumanity



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:52 pm Reply with quote
My problem with Konosuba goes beyond its character design (seriously, look up the original LN illustration, and compare it to the anime).

My main problem is that Every. Single. Frame. of the show that isn't a Megumin EXPLOOOOSION is so lazily made that it practically screams "We don't care about any of this and we just want to cash in on the source's popularity".
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Ashen Phoenix



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:11 pm Reply with quote
Loved this Answerman! Often when a series is announced as a TV anime I'll look at who's set to animate it, the director, character designer and/or original illustrator (for a manga/LN/game adaptation). When it's something that's shown consistent visually-impressive shows in the way BONES, KyoAni, or P.A. Works has, my excitement is certainly raised.

That said, it also then depends on what genre or plot is being brought to the table (Even the most gorgeous sakuga can't keep me engaged in a garbage story).
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hsbeta



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:21 pm Reply with quote
KonoSuba art style isn't unique, it is just low(est) budget art style xDD
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Cam0



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:37 pm Reply with quote
Chiibi wrote:
There are other light-hearted shows that do fine without the derp faces. Rolling Eyes It feels more like either "We didn't have enough money" or "We just didn't care enough".


Well, yeah. I don't think it has good animation, but there's movement. I guess I prefer that over consistent character models but static animation. I don't notice the off model characters that much anyway. It's all arbitrary for me though. Sometimes I might prefer it the other way around.

I haven't watched the 2nd season yet though and I've seen people say it's worse than 1st season.
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AnimeLordLuis



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:13 pm Reply with quote
Without a doubt my favorite Anime studios art style is Studio Trigger they are just so unique and everything the make is distinctly their own. Very Happy
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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:11 pm Reply with quote
Unless I've seen specific discussion about it, I rarely know who is animating a show before watching it. There are quite definite "house styles", although I was thrown by Izetta which I was sure was from A-1.
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Rinkwolf



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:41 pm Reply with quote
Anyone else remember how Shaft used to animate round looking cats into the background EVERYWHERE in the mid 2000's. Shows like Moon Phase and Pani Poni Dash?
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Afezeria



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:14 pm Reply with quote
Konosuba artstyle isn't bad at all but people that defended the show are being called as apologists and wanker, eventhough that most of us didn't call them out for anything. I am not surprised that the hate is trying to run its course here as well.
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yuna49



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:11 pm Reply with quote
What about the original source material for adaptations? Does the style of the manga or visual novel not influence the design of the anime? I can't imagine studios deviate too far from the original work's appearance otherwise the manga's fans would have another reason to complain about the adaptation.
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