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Mindless Watcher
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 68
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:31 am |
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@TheWP
None of the arguments you bring comes close to an evidence. "The only thing I am certain of is that it's shopped" is a bit over the top, don't you think?
If you had at least bothered to go to anime-source and to type "haruhi" into the search bar you would indeed have found an archive page with old banners, one of which is a Haruhi banner, but contains a different pic of Haruhi. So much about the "cincher".
I won't bother to zoom into the pic but even with the naked eye I see that the lines of the Haruhi poster aren't straight. And there is a shadow at the lower left edge.
How broad do you expect the "transition zone" between one piece of paper to the piece of paper below to be? And what's that in pixels? So why do you expect a smoother transition?
A source "major news agency" + "reputable reporter" is about the most trustful combination possible. One must consider that news agencies don't serve couch potatoes like news channels do, but journalists, i.e. professionals. If anything has been manipulated here, it would be a real scoop: "Famous reporter doctors AFP pic to add Japanese cartoon girl." Why didn't you write AFP an e-mail and asked them about the pic?
For your theory, well, some 4chan dude having the exceptional skills to hack into the AFP intranet, in the crucial time period after the pic getting in and before getting out again, actually finding the picture archive and shopping some pic without even knowing if it will ever be published at all ...
It seems to me Haruhi in Gaza is the new moon landings. |
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klamsd
Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 15
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:59 am |
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I can't say I'm amused by this picture considering the cause of the sign.
It's more than likely that it was photoshopped. I'm surprised people are still doubting this. Even considering the whole scenario of the picture, it was done to get the reaction it is getting now. Notice how most of the signs are hand-painted, including the one Haruhi's picture is on. And the few red paint marks splattered on the picture seem to be there simply for added effect. I'm no expect on Photoshop but this just screams "fake". |
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TheWP
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:25 pm |
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@ Mindless Watcher:
Hmmm... Yes, "The only thing I am certain of is that it's shopped" was a bit over the top. That was based on my assumptions. So I then said that if anyone can shoot my assumptions down, to please do so.
I didn't realize that they actually kept archives of the old banners. And like an idiot I completely missed the "search" bar. However, I did search the various sections of Anime-Source. Thinking the banner was lost, I instead looked at the way their various articles were made. From what I saw, the Anime Source logo only appears on their banners.
Still, I stand by the half-hidden watermarked logo being the cincher to this argument. The watermark is what narrows down this to a single specific image. Otherwise the picture is a stock image that could have appeared in a plethora of sizes. Adding the logo brings it down to one, maybe 2 possible images (if thumbnails were used). This is barring the possibility of it being a wallpaper (Meaning many more possible resolutions), but it does not appear to be so. In any case, I believe that if someone finds the image, it will prove/disprove if the picture is shopped.
Several of my arguments were made as I was writing this and already thought it was shopped. That caused me to become sloppy and not carefully check my claims. You are correct about the lines of the picture. Most of the white trim does jut out slightly from what would have been a straight line. This makes sense if she did print it out since it would print out as a square image. Also, the shadow does blast a hole in my credibility. I didn't even notice it in my excitement.
As for the transistion zone, the image should have at least 1-2 pixels of transistion. I don't expect much transistion, but I do expect some. The white to dark grey to grey within a width of 3 pixels still strikes me as odd. I would have expected white to light grey to grey.
As for the anime loving 4-channer, that was supposed to be "out there". I did claim that I don't know how it would be shopped beforehand, but from what I saw I believed it to be the case.
Still, I'll be glad if this creates some debate. I read 5 pages and only 2 arguments were made for/against the possibility of shopping. Reputable source vs clearness of the pic. A more objective look was needed, and I hope these few posts helped facilitate that. If someone is more familiar with shopped pics, it would be nice to hear from them.
I still believe that finding the picture will give a clear answer. |
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fighterholic
Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 9194
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:17 pm |
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You know, you can actually learn a lot by reading what everybody has posted, and it helps give you an idea of what to post. Where to start:
My opinion of the poster in the Gaza Strip tells me that this character and the series has spread her influence pretty much to the far ends of the earth, which proves why this series is so popular and so great to watch. Now I really should continue watching the show. I'm sure that with the licensing of the show it will be only a matter of time, and when it departs Japan, even though it's a worldwide phenomenon, it'll get bigger. |
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Iritscen

Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 737 Location: North Carolina, USA Avatar: The real Saito Hajime
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:51 pm |
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| TheWP wrote: | | yada yada yada yada yada yada YADA YADA YADA |
There must be something wrong with you, son. Go outside and play, or something. Seriously. |
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Kazami Mizuho

Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Shinigami world
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:27 pm |
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I don't know weither that pic is real or not , all I'm saying that Palastine has anime fans & If you look into the arabic anime forums you will find alot , Oh & yes they do have internet access lol
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And to all those here living in the Middle East, I think many of us stateside know that you do indeed have an anime following and good companies, I think many of us just find it harder to believe because of the power struggles, religious situations, and violence that ensues. Over here all the news we get is about tragic times, never a positive story (at least in my memory). I'm glad though that the anime section of the economy is growing everywhere. |
but the Middle east has only 2 countries that are living in wars Iraq & Palastine ( & Lebenon but its over now ) , but other countries like the Gulf countries & other arabic countries are all living in piece !! Qatar ( a Gulf country ) hosted the Asian games 2006. |
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ShootYouStars

Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 37 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:15 pm |
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...The internet can always be trusted to pull people into extended debate about things like this, can't it now.... ^^;; I mean, serious situation there, but this is just a coincidence (or, she or a older brother/sister/friend/classmate/someone-she-knows is an anime fan and has heard of Haruhi.)
And if it is shopped... Many things are shopped these days. Hell, even make-up billboards are shopped to make the models prettier. The important thing is, this made you smile, right? Shopped or not, I don't know about you, but it made me giggle for a while.
That girl is a Haruhi otaku in the making, btw. We'll see Arabic IzumixKyon fanfiction from her in a couple five years. (I bet she couldn't even imagine her sign is causing such a buzz here in america xD)
Yeah, yeah, I already said something earlier. Shame on me. |
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