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EricJ2
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Chinese audiences have been flocking to Bad Moronic CGI American Blockbusters because the sentiment is that the crowds at home have been starting to tire of what the State cinema produces: Since political statement, sex, Western life, religion and ghosts are all taboo topics, the state-run studios have to produce harmless history-blockbusters, romantic comedies, and action/fantasies. They don't see the public "edification" in wasting their own industry money on Robots From Outer Space, Vin Diesel Crashing Cars, or Elves Fighting Orcs In Politically Non-Existent Fantasylands, but if the West knows how to provide one, it's a harmless enough opiate of the masses to allow in theaters. And certainly one often manages to get a bigger crowd of moviegoers than the other. We've seen the list of anime banned in China--which doesn't allow gore, sex, or Supernatural Forces Real in Our Modern Cities, the three things that the rest of the Asian audiences like--and there's a good point that our entertainment interest in "China will save us!" is a bubble, both for anime and Hollywood. And bubbles usually pop when we find out we never did understand what we were investing in. |
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mangamuscle
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I quote this message so that I can return to it next year, five years and a decade from now as proof that china's thigh grip control (aka involvement) on their local media is the reason why it will never be anything but an industry for local consumption. But hey, the sooner china gets a local animation industry up and running, the sooner they will stop hogging japanese anime studios so they can return to do something worth our while. |
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Shar Aznabull
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I remember liking Chinese Ghost Story back in the day but I haven't seen any of the newer stuff, though apparently I'm not really missing out on much. CGS is totally worth watching just to hear Scott McNeil sing btw.
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Topgunguy
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I hope somewhere in those 12 that the damn Bay series ends and it gets rebooted into a proper film the franchise so very much needs. |
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Gina Szanboti
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I really liked Reikenzan though. It had a good story and pretty decent animation (probably because Studio Deen apparently did all or most of it). It's certainly the best thing I've seen Tencent involved with. Spiritpact was awful, but in a very entertaining, The Room, kind of way. Especially toward the end where they sort of ran out of plot, so they kept piling on new perils every scene to try to stretch things out.
 I couldn't make it to the end of Bloodivores, try as I might, and I bailed before the end of the first episode of Outcasts.
I guess my point is they may be slowly but surely learning how to do this better? I mean Japan still puts out eyesores like Trickster (Shin-Ei Animation and TMS), which might as well have been a Tencent production given how terrible the whole thing turned out to be in both story and visuals. Toward the end it was clear everyone just wanted to be done with it and go home, and it looked like they handed it off to a middle school to wrap it up. So even if China limits the types of stories they can produce, they obviously can do some things as good as some subpar Japanese productions, and as long as they don't quit, they'll keep improving. |
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BadNewsBlues
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I think you mean the genwunners desperately want. |
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mangamuscle
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Not quite. For some decades India has been making some awful (by western standards at least) flicks and europe has been making for far longer award wining feature films; by your logic they should already be in a direct fight with hollywood for your saturday night movie ticket. Add on top of it that plot is heavily regulated by the chinese government and you get the same formula the USSR had for their movie industry, never heard of it? Exactly! 
Japan (just like Hollywood) will keep making some stuff that no one will look or remember later that evening, that is normal with any mas media productions, give me a "golden era" and with the help of google I can unearth many turds that time has forgotten. |
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KH91
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So I must be the only who thought Bloodivores was good shit....in its own way. Also, out of all the Chinese produced series, Reikanzan is the best.
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Gina Szanboti
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^ ^ I thought we were talking about animation. Even the best Japanese anime isn't in a direct fight with Hollywood live action for the mainstream's Saturday night movie ticket and likely never will be (unless Hollywood collapses completely). I don't foresee them ever having the budget to out-do Disney/Pixar animation either.
I was only talking about their skills in producing watchable animation with engaging stories on a par with Japan, that weren't shored up by Japanese studios. They're not doing so good at that now, but they're getting better incrementally. Even if the government limits what subjects they can tackle, they can still do well with those subjects. Someday. |
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FukuchiChiisaia
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Actually The King's Avatar is not anime, it's donghua (I prefer called Chinese animation as Donghua). There's no single staff that are Japanese. It's originally made from China. |
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mangamuscle
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Well, let's forget for a moment about Your Name (the movie) since that is atm uncharted territory.and focus in the simple fact that anime made for TV has been quite successfully competing witn their american counterparts in their fight for viewers. Also, if you compare disc sales in the USA of anime TV series and TV cartoons, I bet they are not too far from one another. |
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Paiprince
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Fully Japanese produced anime are better at conveying Chinese stories than what the Chinese have been putting out. I'll take Fushigi Yuugi or Saiyuki even Kingdom over whatever passes out as a "co-production."
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Gina Szanboti
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Whatever. I don't feel like running after your ever-shifting goalposts, since this still doesn't refute my point, which remains:
If you're saying they are not, cannot and will never improve, then I disagree. That's pretty much all I have to say about the topic. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Asterisk-CGY
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Watching Your Name had a trailer of a Space Monkey series that my friend pointed out was by a SK studio. So if they were able to push that here any other industry will get there eventually.
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CANimeFan88
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I hope to see more Chinese animation in the future in the same style as anime (or as I like to call it "chinime".
I've seen at least one by the Chinese that I enjoyed called "Cupid's Chocolates". |
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