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EP. REVIEW: Eromanga Sensei


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NobodysDawn



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 9:13 pm Reply with quote
I don't really feel like Masamune's feelings for Sagiri are as uncomfortable as you make it out to be. Yes, they are step-siblibgs, but I believe they only met a year or so before the story, shortly before the accident. They didn't even have time to get used to the idea before everything happened. You cannot put two teenagers together and expect them to instantly think of each other as siblings. Masamune said in a previous episode (I don't remember which one) that the reason he doesn't want to get involved with Sagiri romantically isn't because he thinks it's wrong or messed up; it's because he feels being the big brother is what she needs him to be since he's all she has left for a family. I dislike "onii-chan" plotlines as much as anyone, but I don't feel like this series falls entirely into the fetishized category most of them do. I will admit the fanservice severely undermines that, though.
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Fhoo



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 10:40 pm Reply with quote
I find it funny that the writer wants the show to be more shallow and trashy so he doesn't have to try to take it seriously when that has been my whole mindset about the show from the beginning. It's been a meme show with very little substance from go and I struggle to see how anyone can genuinely get anything out of it other than maybe a few cheap laughs.
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Actar



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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 9:38 am Reply with quote
Made the horrible mistake of popping by this thread. What's new? Value judgement, people judging the show using their own narrow standards of culturally constructed morality, the usual.

However, I would really appreciate it if people were to not conflate the legal "under-aged/minor" with biological "child". That has always been a pet peeve of mine. A pedophile is NOT someone who is attracted to a minor, but one who is sexually attracted to a PREPUBESCENT child (below the ages of 11). And you are obviously not a child at the age of 17.

The medical term "pedophile" is such a derogatory and stigmatized one that we should be more careful with how we use it. Using it flagrantly or throwing it around like the latest buzzword in order to shame, fear monger or capture the moral high ground really doesn't do anyone any favors, thank you very much. If anything, it trivializes the term and makes it even harder for real sufferers to find treatment.

And yes, please try not to confuse fiction and reality. Real crimes are bad, fictional crimes are victimless. Alright, you can go back to playing GTA V now.
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Errinundra
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 6:11 pm Reply with quote
We're straying off-topic here. By all means express your thoughts on the anime, but let's avoid debates over defining legal terms.
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jymmy



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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:00 am Reply with quote
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Simply put, if you're not watching to ogle the main character's middle school-age sister while also connecting to his pseudo-brotherly feelings for her, this opening segment will make you supremely uncomfortable.


Or you could just not care, or have any number of other reactions. You realise people have different thought processes to yours or the exact opposite of yours, right? Part of growing up is learning the world and the people inhabiting it aren't black and white, "us and them".
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mooseV01



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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 2:25 pm Reply with quote
Why does this sister-brother fetish bullcrap exist, anyway?

Japan sure is weird.

It's a shame, because I like the whole lightnovel-making aspect of it... but I just don't care for the whole sister-brother thing whatsoever. Even if they're step-siblings and haven't seen each other 'till the very beginning of the series.... ITS JUST.... WEIRD!

And I'm aware there are worse series that contain actual legit blood-relative incest. Believe me, I don't even pay those series any mind.

It's just a shame elements of those crap series are tainting this series that has a potentially good premise.

It's crap like this that makes me stick to the more mainstream anime offerings. I get curious and start wandering out of my comfort-zone in an attempt to widen my anime consumption (in addition to my anime-fan freinds telling me to watch more than just AoT, Naruto and One Piece) and I find.... this. Confused
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zrnzle500



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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:44 pm Reply with quote
^Well for one, there is an audience for it. I can't speak to why, other than that people are into weird stuff and that's just the way it is. Second, if the author's previous prominent work is any indication (Oreimo), it may be something the author is into.

If you think on this issue specifically, Japan is weird, I will say you are wrong. While you probably wouldn't see much of any actual brother and sister stuff in say American media, step-sibling (like this show) or cousin stuff is not unheard of, though perhaps with a more condemning framing, to say nothing of porn. The relative commonality of such things in anime probably belies how disagreeable such fetishes are in Japan, perhaps even within the community itself. Anime is a niche interest in Japan, and the sort of show that appeals to incest fetishists is a niche within that niche, so those who do like those parts of those shows are likely the minority not just in Japan but within the community. Perhaps they may be more open about such things, but if you asked a random Japanese person or anime fan, chances are they would probably find incest disagreeable.

If I may suggest something when trying to broaden your horizons: do look into the shows before jumping in. You won't want to walk out of your comfort zone if you step on a land mine. Check to make sure there isn't something you know you will find disagreeable, like say incest. You don't want to be too narrow-minded but avoiding things you actively dislike is not a bad thing.
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Jonny Mendes



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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 10:36 am Reply with quote
mooseV01 wrote:
It's crap like this that makes me stick to the more mainstream anime offerings. I get curious and start wandering out of my comfort-zone in an attempt to widen my anime consumption (in addition to my anime-fan freinds telling me to watch more than just AoT, Naruto and One Piece) and I find.... this. Confused

If you are trying to go out of the usual mainstream shonen stuff i think it was a bad decision to go strait to a otaku heavy show like Eromanga Sensei.

Looking at your usual shows, something like Grimoire of Zero or Sword Oratoria would be a better way to go to anime other than mainstream shonen.
If you are looking for slice of life or romance, try Tsukigakirei or Saekano: How to Raise a Boring Girlfriend Flat. It's probably a safer bet than Eromanga Sensei.

In other news, Eromanga Sensei are raking 3rd in spring anime in Japan, according to this week pool of airing anime in Charapedia.
If the LN sells well(looks like is doing great), and BD's have also good numbers, season 2 will probably be in the works soon.
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ChibiKangaroo



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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:38 am Reply with quote
I might look at this show purely out of curiosity. I don't expect I will like it, not because of the subject matter but purely because I expect that it will be primarily focused on serving the fans/fetish and not taking the idea of familial relations seriously. Personally, I would actually think it would be interesting to see some show take this concept seriously and not just as fetish material.
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Cam0



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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 12:57 pm Reply with quote
Himouto! Umaru-chan might not be the best example but it does focus a lot on the sibling relationship between Umaru and Taihei. The show is a comedy though so it's not really all that serious but I think it gets the sibling relationship quite right.
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CheezcakeMe





PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:11 am Reply with quote
This show is like the potato chips of anime. You know it's bad for you, and heck chips aren't even that tasty, but then you looked down and realize you've eaten the entire bag in one sitting.
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Vaisaga



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 11:09 am Reply with quote
Oh boy, where to start with this review...

Mr. Farris seems to be forgetting all of Megumi's behaviour thus far. She's always putting Masamune in uncomfortable situations but when the tables turn on her it's revealed she's not so promiscuous after all. Add in Tomoe getting payback in a way you wouldn't expect, yes it is satisfying to see her get knocked down several pegs.

It's about the only way her true nature would be revealed, too. It's not like Masamune is the kind of guy to call her bluff, so Sagiri's behaviour was the best way to reveal that Megumi only acts slutty to be fashionable and not because she actually is a slut.

Revealing things about characters by having them bounce off other characters is the best way for characterization.

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or Masamune's publisher making him jump through tons of hoops simply to keep working


That's unfair to the publisher. They were going to publish his book, just next year. It was his own personal circumstances that required him to get it out earlier. Then they go out of their way to give him a special exception in order to give him another chance.
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#870779



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 11:33 am Reply with quote
I've checked ANN every day for the last 2 years and I only just made an account to respond to this review. This might be the worst, most opinionated review I've ever seen for any anime. You're literally grasping at straws to put the show down. Oh, no they were mean to Megumi, by far the most annoying and irritating character in the show, so now the series is going downhill. If that seen got you so offended, you should probably just drop the series. This anime is meant to have it's perverted momemts, because it is exactly how you described it: a sex comedy. Sagiri is a little girl that loves drawing naked and lewd women, and needs to see panties for inspiration, but suddenly Megumi being a middle schooler makes this scene not okay? But her coming on to her classmates older brother just so she can get closer with that classmate Is? Okay. Just do yourself a favor and drop it
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TheOtakuX



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 11:40 am Reply with quote
I don't think Megumin's annoying at all, but it was still fun seeing her get picked on.

But I can't agree with the review at all. This show has been getting better and better with each episode, and it's easily the most entertaining thing this season.
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DmonHiro





PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 12:15 pm Reply with quote
"that's a bad sign for its overall tone."

Disagree completely. This is EXACTLY what I signed up for. More smut, please!
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