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harminia
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I laughed. Man's got his priorities organised. He probably didn't like Your Name or Kemono Friends much because there weren't rockets and explosions. |
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Lynx Amali
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1) I wasn't actually referring to DVD/BD sales. I was referring to the overall viewership on TV. 2) That's actually pretty good especially given how its time slot was garbage. 3) Is that just the first volume of IBO? I heard it dropped hard.
It really wasn't that big of a mess. Pacing felt rushed but it was a 52 episode smashed into 24/26. I can't agree with badly written characters though. At ALL. Especially given what happened with the show that was also airing at the same time. Try had much worse characters which is honestly surprising given that the strong point of the first series was because it was a combination of good characters, fandom jokes and the fun fights (although it did ultimately resort to Build Knuckle spam.) |
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luisedgarf
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Or more accurately: The U.S. and Canada = / = Japan. |
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Nyren
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As for G-Reco, Tomino publicly admitted that it was crap and apologized for it. I've tried to watch it twice and I just can't. The dialogue is cringe-worthy, the characters are over the top, and it's just way too happy for a Gundam series. IBO is a lot closer to what Gundam should be. |
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Lynx Amali
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He actually didn't. All he really said was he could've handled it better. Paraphrasing it but that's basically it. The only article and by extension, discussion on an article that I've seen say Tomino apologizing for it was ANN's article on his comments (sourced from a Yaraon post which ANN then proceeded to horribly translate.) Funny how they never followed that up with Gen Urobochi and Uno Tsunehiro's comments on it, isn't it?
Because Gundam shows can't be happy? Let's ignore the original SD Gundam shorts, the spinoffs, Gaiden and Sangokuden (which is freaking fantastic even if it's Liu wank!), and X. What determines that a Gundam show shouldn't be happy? A fair bit of Turn A is happy slice of life antics and its great. IBO really isn't what Gundam should be. I've never seen a show screw up its premise since Gigantic Formula or hell, the third and fourth of AGE for that matter if we're limiting it to Gundam alone. Tackling the idea of child soldiers and actually placing a story on Mars for that matter? Awesome. Having them be straddling the line between being heroes and being just as bad as those they oppose? Equally awesome. The actual show's execution? Eeeeeeh. Not only did the first season's finale fall flat on its face with Tekkadan having almost as much plot armor as the Archangel and Kira did in Destiny, the second season didn't really fix anything. spoiler[At least Season 2's final stretch was great with Tekkadan actually taking losses, like they should have in the first place.] |
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Nyren
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harminia
Posts: 1995 Location: australia |
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That's by your personal standards. In my opinion, if the creator of Gundam himself decides to write a happy Gundam story, it means Gundam can be happy. |
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ryanvamp
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Yet I remember ANN's official gundam reviewer giving it high ratings. Same thing with IBO. They didn't even try to review G-Reco. I'm going to take a wild guess and say this is not the right forum to try to convince the majority of its users about anything good Tomino has ever done. They'd rather concentrate in his (apparently) bombastic statements and call the man old and senile. IMO G-Reco, even while being QUITE flawed, managed to be the most interesting thing that came out of gundam in the last ten years, only topped by The Origin. Thunderbolt is excellent but is too recent and could get worse, TRY was a travesty, IBO failed in many levels script-wise and UNICORN started great and ended up being hugely disappointing. Last edited by ryanvamp on Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:33 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Lynx Amali
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-Spin-offs don't count -Lists Thunderbolt Gundam X is probably the happiest Gundam has ever been, if you discount things like SD. The entire message of the show is basically about hope and second chances.spoiler[ Hell, it's one of the few entries in the series where the main antagonists don't get killed with the Frost Brothers having to watch the world move on.] SEED does **** all with its themes. I'm a big fan of SEED's worldbuilding and general setting but the actual show does nothing with the concept of the genetic engineering (outside of the Druggies) and brings it up a couple times but ultimately does nothing with the sterilization of Coordinators. Victory I'll give you, even though the Einerad, Adrastea and Battle Bikes are incredibly silly though highly effective. Thunderbolt is incredibly silly though, especially with the spoiler[Killer Space Monks arc.] Gundam at its root has always been silly. G-Armor? The entirety of the Newtype asspulls in the shows, like the Zeta-series Biosensors? The Axis Shock and Pschyoframes? The entirety of Unicorn's black-box newtype mumbo jumbo? spoiler[Crystal Unicorn?] |
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the green death
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This new movie, will it just be a recut of the show? Probably but it'd be nice if it were all new.
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No Brand
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New member here. Couldn't resist, so here're my two cents:
I haven't watched G-Reco past the first two or three episodes; I remember mentioning in another forum that Tomino's style could be excused in previous works due to their age but the same can't be said for G-Reco. That said the comments here have actually made me more enthusiastic about finishing the series.
Never mind the nonsensical battles; you're discounting the fact that Try's battles lacked impact because the characters fighting them simply didn't make the audience care as much as their counterparts in the previous series. You have a big problem when Try's final boss, Wilfrid Kijima, can hardly hold a candle to Build Fighters' side characters Fellini, Mao, and Niels in terms of characterization. Heck, I thought Luang Dallara was more memorable than Wilfrid. Now it's one thing if Wilfrid was the only problem; how many teams of three did the Try Fighters fight? 
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DarkLordDragon
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I never liked G-Reco, to me it was one of the worst Gundams honestly. I'd rather have a Gundam Wing Frozen Teardrop.
As for the anime industries, as long as their focus on magical school girls or panties and boobs, it will never regain its glory. |
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MarshalBanana
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Chrysostomus
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TheAncientOne
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Buying a Blu-ray or DVD takes more commitment (and cold hard cash) than viewing something on TV. At that point a person also knows what they are getting. As I stated, the was for the first half, not the first volume. Using the word "averaged" for a single volume wouldn't make much sense after all. The second half isn't fairing as well, currently standing at an average of 6,035. While the releases for the second half aren't complete, most series decline in sales with later volumes, meaning that average probably isn't going to improve. Just based on the first half (I still haven't watched the second), in my personal opinion IBO was far better than G-Reco, but this wouldn't be the first time Japan surprised me. Both series pale in sales next to shows like Seed (including Destiny) or 00 but outperfomed AGE. |
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