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Zalis116
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Fun fact about Texas: if you are entering the state on Interstate 10 from the west, you are closer to that road's endpoint in Los Angeles than you are to the eastern edge of Texas. Similarly, if you enter from the east, you are closer to Jacksonville, Florida than the western edge of Texas. |
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NJ_
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Capcom localizing Sengoku Basara 3 is why we have that dub as both that and the first season were being worked on at the same time and both were released on the same day. Despite issues with some of the anime-only VAs (I personally didn't like Robert McCollum as Date Masamune compared to Reuben Langdon who voiced him in the game), I enjoyed what FUNi did with Sengoku Basara and that they continued with it to the [judge] end, even after Capcom didn't bother localizing 3 Utage, 4 and the 1 & 2 HD Collection. . |
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Greed1914
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It also seems like the increased use of simuldubs has affected how often Houston actors will appear in Funimation roles. At a convention Greg Ayers said that he would drive in from Houston to record, and then drive back home the same day since staying at a hotel would mean losing money on the trip, plus they don't find out very far in advance if they are needed from week-to-week, so scheduling to make the most of each trip is difficult. |
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BlueRex666
Posts: 233 Location: El Paso, TX |
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Overall I think there are more acting opportunities in LA. Not just anime, various video games,the occasional western animations (Grey Matter from the Ben 10 reboot and Sparrow Hood from Ever After High). You can get your name out there more in LA. |
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BlueRex666
Posts: 233 Location: El Paso, TX |
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I'm not sure Johnny is part of the Screen Actor's Guild, and even if he is he might of claimed "financial core" status like Stephanie Sheh or Matthew Mercer. While this requires the individual to pay union dues, it also allows them full union protection on union jobs and does not obligate them to honor the union's bylaws (basically they can work in union and non-union jobs). Also when Johnny was starting out in voice acting, he actually did a few roles with Funimation (bit role Lujon from episode 35 of the 2003 Fullmetal Alchemist and even major character Yuji "Saku" Sakurai in BECK: Mongolian Chop Squad) so maybe he's got some clout. |
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epicwizard
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I wonder why. Are union dubs too costly? |
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Morry
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I'm actually curious how relevant distant will be in the next decade. Funi's been rather regularly using Todd's studio for broadcast dubs which has led to some surprising cast choices.
I think the bigger issue is scheduling on a week-to-week basis, and that might change if more anime start getting their materials in early to dub. (Funi's accomplished this repeatedly with Bones) |
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jr240483
Posts: 4369 Location: New York City,New York,USA |
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there is also the unfortunate case of those ever so confusing union/non-union rules that answerman forgot to mention that prevents some of these VAs to do different roles. unless they use aliases that is. for instance their union might have their VAs use an alias if their are planing to do a series that have EXTREMELY QUESTIONABLE CONTENT like in girls bravo , berserk , queens blade, tengo tenge and ikkitousen. the only exception to that alias rule was in samurai girls / bride where an ANN reviewer said it was their choice to use an alias and not a union/non-union rule. regardless, its rather curious that these voice actors/actresses would rather live in LA than in texas considering the latter state have the second lowest amount of taxes in the country (the lowest is in FL.especially in Miami) and there even no state or income tax as well either unlike in Los Angeles , CA have the largest taxes in the state other than new york. i should know since i live in NY (though specifically in Queens) |
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Mr.Shonen
Posts: 269 Location: Brooklyn, NY |
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Ocean Studios and ADV crossover. That's sounds like an interesting combo.
Honestly you think that with the rise and advancement of the internet/technical communications/sound recording/etc... there would be more mixing and mingling where you could eventually get the dream casts that fans crave. Finally, haven't a couple of the most noteable NYC VAs left for LA over the past few years. |
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leafy sea dragon
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I could've sworn I read somewhere that Petrea Buchard had passed away...was that incorrect?
I think the biggest issue here is the size of the business and perfectionism. Anime localization is a lot smaller than video games, and their budgets are smaller accordingly. At the same time, there seems to be a lot of audiophiles in the anime fandom who will complain if everything isn't done perfectly and consistently, technology-wise. The easiest thing to do, under these circumstances, is to record everything in the same location with the same people.
A lot of European tourists in the United States have problems with the sheer geographical scale of the country, I've noticed. It's hard to grasp the concept of such a large country like the US (or Canada, for that matter) if you don't already live somewhere that's also enormous (like Brazil, Russia, or China). |
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Primus
Posts: 2758 Location: Toronto |
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Too costly for North American anime distributors. SAG has a publicly accessible database you can go through and see just how little in LA gets a union dub. Just make sure you list "2001" as the production year. For reasons I don't know SAG always lists anime under that year. If you see "Unforeseen Productions, Inc." that's just Bang Zoom. The other companies should be self explanatory. The situations are usually like this: - Canada (Calgary, Edmonton, Montreal, Vancouver, Toronto) = Almost always union. Calgary/Edmonton dubs are not produced under ACTRA, but still a "union." Newish studios have entered the GVR scene within the last few years but I don't know their status. - Hong Kong = Of course not. - Los Angeles = Usually not union unless it's part of a prestige thing or from a huge company like Disney or Sony. - New York = Usually not union. - Texas = Never union. |
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JGZinv
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She's still kicking, myself and a few others used to be major contributors at TenchiForum. We had a convention event with her at ChibiPa. You can find her on Facebook these days, mostly being a novelist. https://www.facebook.com/petreaburchard |
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Kalessin
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This is the first I've heard of anyone claiming that we'd actually heard the reason why Petrea Burchard didn't reprise her role. At the time, all that either she or Funimation said was that they couldn't come to an agreement (which certainly implies that money was the problem but doesn't actually tell us, and even if money were the problem, it wouldn't necessarily be travel expenses). And since everyone in the dub of the third Tenchi OVA was an LA-based actor and not Texas-based, I'd be very surprised if they didn't dub the series in CA, in which case, Petrea's travel would only have mattered if she were living someone else at that point. ANN lists the dub studio for that series as A.M.I. Anime Dubbing, not Funimation, which would strongly imply that they did the dub in LA rather than Dallas, but that studio is only listed as having dubbed that series, and searching for them elsewhere online doesn't seem to reveal much, so I don't know that we know exactly where it is aside from the fact that all of the actors involved were LA actors, implying that the studio is/was in LA. But either way, they clearly didn't do the dub at Funimation, and so while it may very well be true that they weren't willing to pay Petrea Burchard what she wanted, it seems pretty questionable that the problem would have been travel expenses. Her wikipedia page claims that she currently lives in LA. So, she probably was local to where the dub was actually done even if she wasn't local to Funimation. As such, I find it very hard to believe that travel expenses were why they couldn't come to terms, though it's quite possible that money was indeed the problem. But regardless of all of that, another thing to consider is that even if travel expenses were the problem, it's been over 10 years since the 3rd Tenchi OVA was dubbed. So, things could have changed considerably since then with regards to how Funimation handles dubs and actors who don't live in or near Dallas. They've clearly done some dubbing outside of Dallas in recent years when an actor is elsewhere, but that doesn't mean that they were doing anything of the sort 10 years ago. But it's pretty clear that their solution in this case was outsourcing the dubs for GXP and the 3rd OVA, which should have fixed the travel problems unless an actor had moved away from the LA area since dubbing the previous Tenchi series (of course, even then, they didn't get the original actors for GXP - probably because the roles were too small to bother). And while it really sucked that they didn't get Petrea Burchard, they did manage to get the rest rather than simply replacing the whole cast - and even went so far as to outsource the dub to do it, which they don't normally do. So, while I'm very disappointed that they didn't get Petrea back, Funimation clearly tried to do the right thing and get the actors back (and largely succeeded), and I'm very grateful that they did. In other cases, they (and other studios) haven't bothered and have simply recast everyone (e.g. they arguably should have paid Ocean Studios to dub the rest of Shakugan no Shana, since Ocean Studios had dubbed the first season for Geneon, but Funimation went and dubbed the rest themselves with a completely different set of actors).
Her wikipedia page does not list here as dead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrea_Burchard and she has a website where she seems to blog stuff, and has posts as recent as last week: http://petreaburchard.com/ So, I think that it's safe to say that she's still alive. She doesn't seem to have done much acting in the last decade though: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0120838/ |
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CandisWhite
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As a Canadian, I have the opposite feeling. I once read a guide to Canada which talked about Canadians having no trouble driving for 4 hours and peed myself laughing at the idea that 4 hours is a long, let alone unimaginable, time to drive. I was talking to a Sri Lankan man about his home and he stated that something on one side was X km away from the other side; Without thinking, I said "Oh, you mean X00". "No, X." I blushed as I realized my unconscious blunder: My brain had automatically said that 2 borders can't be THAT close.
Ouch. Just ouch. I'm looking at the ACTRA rates here and comparing to your example of a man who can't even afford a motel room for the night. Oooof. That's... wow. |
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Vibrant Wolf
Posts: 109 Location: Canada |
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it basically comes down to affordability and convenience.
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