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VanGosroth



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:13 pm Reply with quote
They are just cartoons. Who cares. As long as their desires are left to fictional drawn characters in fictional situations that is.

To each their own.
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burzmali



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:22 pm Reply with quote
For those curious

X ~ Binomial
n = 100
p = .3
E(X) = np = 30
V(X) = np(1-p) = 21
stdev = 4.6
Therefore, this suggests that if this test were repeated, you would expect the between 21 and 39 of the 100 mangas to turn up loli, 95% of the time.
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linlinchan



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:27 pm Reply with quote
rankothefiremage wrote:
A person in japan can marry at 13 with parental consent, and by their own choice at 16. This creates a question of how do you say someone is a child when their old enough to marry? or already married?


But that doesn't change the fact that though national age of consent is 13, prefectural law, which supersedes national laws, usually range from 16-18 depending on which prefecture you are in, just like states in the US. (for example, in my native New Jersey, the age of consent is 16.)
People cite this often, but I don't think there are any areas of Japan in which the age of sexual consent is actually 13 right now.

Additionally, average age for first marriage is getting higher and higher in Japan. Very few high school students are married, and the number of people who marry right out of high school is way lower than the US now.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:56 pm Reply with quote
My first reaction to this headline, out loud to myself:

"That's f*cking disgusting."

Why are people so screwed up?
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tempest
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:13 pm Reply with quote
The Seventh Son wrote:
even regular child porn is legal there.


1) Uhh, you're wrong. "Regular" child porn is illegal in Japan.
2) Please read the rules about English grammar (ie: punctuation).

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:27 pm Reply with quote
Josh7289 wrote:
My first reaction to this headline, out loud to myself:

"That's f*cking disgusting."

Why are people so screwed up?

My first reaction to this headline: "Oh no, the 3,569,238th flame war about lolicon that leads to nowhere."
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fxg97873



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:06 pm Reply with quote
Oh my God! We found the solution for childless couples. All you got to do is draw lines on paper and you can spontaneously create children! Amazing!
Rolling Eyes

How lines on paper "involve Children and Sexual Intercourse" is beyond me.
Must be another dimension.

If we asked a biologist to identify the species of an anime figure drawn on paper based on its proportions such as eye and mouth size, would he say human...or humanoid?
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AvatarofJustice



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:18 pm Reply with quote
It is my understanding that 14 is the legal age of sexual consent in Japan. Therefore, I'm assuming that this study means adult manga involve children under 14 NOT 18. If it were under 18, I'd expect the number to be MUCH MUCH higher than 30%. Unless all those hentai high school/secondary school girls are all seniors getting ready to graduate Rolling Eyes
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silentjay



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:10 pm Reply with quote
tempest wrote:
1) Uhh, you're wrong. "Regular" child porn is illegal in Japan.


Now it is. After being pressured by the UN, Japan adopted 18 as an age of consent in the spring of 1999, when they passed the 'Protecting Children Online' law. Prior to that, the only thing that was illegal was to hire the services of a prostitute under the age of 13. Prior to 1999, Japan was the child porn capital of the world, with 80% of the world's child porn produced there.

Sources: Wikipedia, BBC Online, The Register.
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silentjay



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:10 pm Reply with quote
AvatarofJustice wrote:
It is my understanding that 14 is the legal age of sexual consent in Japan.


It's 18 there. It's 14 in Canada.
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Nanobot



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:17 pm Reply with quote
Here's how I view it: Pedos will be pedos whether there's porn available for them or not. If they can't pleasure themselves in the comfort and isolation of their own empty homes (which I'm sure most would prefer to do), they'll find their pleasure elsewhere. That probably means in the parks, stalking real children. I don't know about you, but I'd rather have pedos wanking to drawings than trying to pursue real kids.

There is no evident link between an increase in the availability of pornography and an increase in the occurrence of rape. In fact, most studies show just the opposite, probably for the reasons I gave above.

Furthermore, I happen to know that lots of people are attracted to anime depictions of little girls but not real little girls. The two, while obviously linked to some extent, are not equal. Very few people would be attracted to real women with anime-sized eyes, yet somehow they're generally considered attractive in anime. Just because you're attracted to certain characteristics of anime characters (eye size, body proportions, age) doesn't necessarily mean that you would be attracted to the same characteristics in real humans.
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Riyousha



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:48 pm Reply with quote
Sounds alot like child pornography which is against the law in every country because the government says that children are too young to engage in sexual activitys like sucking on penis, licking vaginas, getting buttsexed, getting urinated (like the time that R. Kelly peed on a little girl, once), etc. So perhaps every country (United States, South Africa, United Kingdom, probably Japan, etc) doesn't even allow this stuff like Lolicon for example, which hosts little girl porno.

I bet people who'd most likely put up child pornography are pedophiles.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:01 am Reply with quote
silentjay wrote:
AvatarofJustice wrote:
It is my understanding that 14 is the legal age of sexual consent in Japan.


It's 18 there. It's 14 in Canada.


I believe the National minimum age is 14 but most prefectures have raised to 16 or 18.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:32 am Reply with quote
HitokiriShadow wrote:
silentjay wrote:
AvatarofJustice wrote:
It is my understanding that 14 is the legal age of sexual consent in Japan.


It's 18 there. It's 14 in Canada.


I believe the National minimum age is 14 but most prefectures have raised to 16 or 18.


They were planning on raising it to 16 to protect teens from pedophiles on the net. They are referring to children, not teens. I wonder how long this debate will last. I'm on the con loli hentai side. Even if they are drawn children, it's still child pornography.
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Here's how I view it: Pedos will be pedos whether there's porn available for them or not. If they can't pleasure themselves in the comfort and isolation of their own empty homes (which I'm sure most would prefer to do), they'll find their pleasure elsewhere. That probably means in the parks, stalking real children. I don't know about you, but I'd rather have pedos wanking to drawings than trying to pursue real kids.


Over 80% of rapes are when the victim knew the rapest, so they wouldn't stalk any child they saw. What happends if the porn is not enough and they want a real child to satisfy their need to have sex with children?
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There is no evident link between an increase in the availability of pornography and an increase in the occurrence of rape. In fact, most studies show just the opposite, probably for the reasons I gave above.


When they find child molesters on the net, how come there are some who have been involved with child porongraphy?
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Furthermore, I happen to know that lots of people are attracted to anime depictions of little girls but not real little girls. The two, while obviously linked to some extent, are not equal. Very few people would be attracted to real women with anime-sized eyes, yet somehow they're generally considered attractive in anime. Just because you're attracted to certain characteristics of anime characters (eye size, body proportions, age) doesn't necessarily mean that you would be attracted to the same characteristics in real humans.


If someone is aroused by drawn children, there is something wrong with them. Even if they aren't real, it is still children being invovled in sexual situation.


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fxg97873



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:37 am Reply with quote
Riyousha wrote:
Sounds alot like child pornography which is against the law in every country because the government says that children are too young to engage in sexual activitys like sucking on penis, licking vaginas, getting buttsexed, getting urinated (like the time that R. Kelly peed on a little girl, once), etc. So perhaps every country (United States, South Africa, United Kingdom, probably Japan, etc) doesn't even allow this stuff like Lolicon for example, which hosts little girl porno.

I bet people who'd most likely put up child pornography are pedophiles.


Where exactly are these supposed mystery children who live inside of drawings?

I'm having a hard time parsing through the rest of that statement. No comment.

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