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Interview: Milton Griepp and the American Anime Awards


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nobody1801



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:08 pm Reply with quote
This could have been a chance to recognize real artistic merit though. When Boys Don't Cry won all the accolades it did, it brought in a whole new audience that would never have seen it.. It did so well because it was good. Not because it was a blockbuster that had all the dollars behind it.

If the Oscars were to parallel these awards, the best picture race would be between Mission Impossible 3 and the Over the Hedge movie. Popular doesn't mean great.

Can a series be popular and good? Of course it can. But popularity shouldn't be the only criteria that this thing is judged by. Or by company submissions. I'm not so sure the company execs who run ADV and Bandai are the best judges of what should be heralded in this way. They know how to pick a hot show that will sell a butt load of copies, but should it be left up to them to pick the artisitic highlights of 2006?

Which couldn't happen here anyway, because appanrently you can vote for anything that's ever come out ever.

I'm putting my votes behind Astro Boy. Or maybe Steam Boat Willy.
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MorwenLaicoriel



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:57 pm Reply with quote
loplop wrote:
. . . . Not to mention, many anime fans absolutely hate dubs, so where are the original Seiyuu categories . . . .


In Japan, where good voice actors are actually acknowledged for their work, instead of being considered "not japanese enough".
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BigLL



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:53 pm Reply with quote
I do like to see at least one category for best seiyuu. However, the award show is called "American" Anime Awards, so they only include English dub VAs. As far as having "VAs, producers, directors, Company CEOs, translators, writers and ADR people" doing the voting is that they will likely only vote for the series that they worked on (in the case of CEOs they will only vote for series their company published). That's probably even worse than having the fans doing the voting.
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Scott_Green



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:03 pm Reply with quote
If the goal of this is for the industry to promote their wares, there are evidently some kinks to work out in the proccess, as I'm sure everyone recognizes. If that's the goal for something like this, it's fine. How many industries don't do something like that?

If something was put together to judge what was produced in North America, great... best voice acting work, best translation, best packaging, ect... These are certainly endeavors worth recognizing.

If the idea is judge artist merit, or assign some sort of "best" superlative, I think its a flawed idea for a North American audience to judge.

First, it's probably a flawed idea for anyone to judge. Anime is a pop medium, which mean we all quickly get excited about works and in most cases, we quickly move on. There are plenty of works that keep everyone's attention, but plenty more that flare up and burn out. Before ADV released Shadow Skill TV, how many remembered the '97 OAV release that everyone talked about 9 years ago? How often is the CG Appleseed release spoken about now?

Secondly, when works are taken out the original context, how do you begin to judge them? Hakugei Legend of Moby Dick, Castle of Cagliostro, and Basilisk all had 2006 North American releases. What criteria do you use to weigh works from radically different epochs of an art.

The first half of the nomination list is broken, but a good start. The second half short changes our ability to evaluate anime by steering the discussion down the wrong path.

The Eisner awards might have it right when they restrict it to a "Best U.S. edition of foreign material"
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:58 pm Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
Go watch this year's frontrunners - Babel, Dreamgirls, The Queen, United 93, Children of Men, Pan's Labyrinth, The Departed - and tell me that somehow the moviegoing public that makes Garfield: A Tale of Two Kitties a $70 million grossing pic would bother to select any of these outstanding and amazing films as best of the year.
Zac, while there are always people who just vote for whatever happens to popular, there are people who can actually use their brain and vote for quality. Also, I did say that I thought a strict popular vote would not work. (By the way, Dreamgirls seems to be pretty popular based on the individual theater returns. It's in limited release but it's obviously got a lot of people going to see it where it is playing. I thought The Departed did well at the box office also.)

I just happen to think that a strictly professional group can be just as bad by not nominating things which they disagree with the content of. They also have a tendency to give awards out of season, giving an award to an actor or director one year when they actually should have received it earlier. (Like that whole thing with Denzel Washington winning for Training Day when he should have gotten it for Malcom X.)

And among anime fans popular and quality do seem to correlate more often. Cowboy Bebop, while not a favorite of mine, is considered by many to be very high quality and it is also extremely popular.

What is the point of an award if the most important group of people, the fans, have no say in who gets it anyway?
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RogueJedi86



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:04 pm Reply with quote
*copied&pasted from the other thread*

I wonder who the heck nominated Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children as an Anime Feature? It's a Realistic CG film based off a video game. Not really anime.
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shirokiryuu



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:10 pm Reply with quote
RogueJedi86 wrote:
*copied&pasted from the other thread*

I wonder who the heck nominated Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children as an Anime Feature? It's a Realistic CG film based off a video game. Not really anime.


*shrugs* Maybe they wanted to take advantage of its popularity. Also some people defined japanese anime anything that's animated in Japan. ^^;

(then again, some nominees are a stretch)
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Sam Murai



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:22 pm Reply with quote
I was very glad to see the questions posed to those behind the American Anime Awards. When I first heard of the awards a while ago, I had mixed feelings of it, as to whether it would be a genuine Academy-esque voting event or a fan-based "popularity" contest. Judging by all of the categories and submissions, the AAA staff may have had good intentions and ideas, but the event as a whole is a poor mess. It was difficult to understand whether the actors are to be judged on the series they were noted with or on their talents alone, or if "Eureka Seven" is a better theme song than "Lonely in Gorgeous." Additionally, the series given should have been limited to only those that were first released in the past year (2006). Inexcuseable(sp) typos (considering the supposed levity of these awards) aside, all of the choices should have been narrowed down to only a set number ("7" is acceptable), chosen by industry people in an Acedemy-style manner to ensure a level of fairness and quality.

This brings me to some of the mentions of Naruto, BLEACH, and others as examples of shows that should be honored. Honestly, while Naruto has gotten better (watching via U.S. broadcast) and the latter has proven to be an interesting series, I would not be so quick, personally, to put them on the ballot nor would I ever consider FMA or any of Satoshi Kon's work. Despite the popularity behind all of them, I don't think they are deserving of awards over other shows that aren't as popular but are superior to them. This all goes back to the whole "popularity contest" concern. I don't agree with them and they don't agree with me, so what is there stopping this as a whole from being one sided?

The AAAs are a good step in the right direction, but they are stumbling quite a bit in doing so.
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BrothersElric



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:28 pm Reply with quote
Sam Murai wrote:


This brings me to some of the mentions of Naruto, BLEACH, and others as examples of shows that should be honored. Honestly, while Naruto has gotten better (watching via U.S. broadcast) and the latter has proven to be an interesting series, I would not be so quick, personally, to put them on the ballot nor would I ever consider FMA or any of Satoshi Kon's work. Despite the popularity behind all of them, I don't think they are deserving of awards over other shows that aren't as popular but are superior to them. This all goes back to the whole "popularity contest" concern. I don't agree with them and they don't agree with me, so what is there stopping this as a whole from being one sided?

The AAAs are a good step in the right direction, but they are stumbling quite a bit in doing so.


Problem is, that is only based on, as you said, the U.S. version, which in both series, is about to get WAY better, considering where they are in the series. Yes, I know, I am a fansub watcher and scanalation reader, but that's beyond the point.

But then again, I guess these awards are bassed on what happened THIS year, and neither Naruto or Bleach has gotten that far in THIS year. Mabye next year they'll both be deserving when the U.S. version getts that far, but that's just my opinion, and everyone's opinion is different.
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