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The World Is Hers: How Hatsune Miku Is Changing Everything


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gwdone



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:59 am Reply with quote
Kugutsu wrote:
Running Wild wrote:
I hate Miku Hatsune and everything she stands for. It's bad enough that I'm a Toyota Corolla owner and now when I go to see my dealer, I see her disgusting mug on the wall.

fudge. Moe. It's everything that is wrong with the industry.

BRING BACK MANLINESS.

BRING BACK SEXY WOMANLY WOMEN.


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If you don't like pop, there's tons of alternatives. How about you do research before making yourself look like an ass. =/


I'LL TAKE THE MUG ON THE WALL IF YOU CAN GRAB IT !!!
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Lightning Leo



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:56 am Reply with quote
Not sure I would say Hatsune Miku is changing "everything", but she's definitely adding a fun flavor to the memetic Internet culture and providing musicians/artists with an expanded toolset for their productions. One could rightly say she's the banner idol of the digital music age.

On a related note, has anyone here heard of David Cope's EMI (Experiment in Musical Intelligence)? Its successor is named "Emily Howell", whose piano-playing you can listen to here. Basically, it's an artificial music intelligence that produces original music based on what I imagine are randomizing algorithms and a set of rules based in music analysis. Brings up a lot of controversy about what constitutes music, and I wonder if in a decade or so it will become entirely indistinguishable from human works (even people today sometimes can't tell). Once artificial intelligence becomes married with toolsets like the Vocaloids, maybe we'll start seeing some real Uncanny Valley stuff... like a true-to-life Sharon Apple. Shocked
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:15 pm Reply with quote
I like how they mentioned that this is a specifically PC thing, but there's a photograph of Itoh with a MacBook Pro.

Hardgear wrote:
Fabe wrote:
So in other words Vocaloid is like a musical version of Poser,interesting way of looking at it. And like Poser it'll most likely be looked down upon as not being "real" art.


Sadly that is probably true. I have noticed that in the professional art community: They (not saying all of them, just all the ones I seem to know) REALLY look down on anyone who didn't go through the motions to get there, no matter how skilled they are.


This applies to near everything with a lot of devotees that either has institutions to learn the craft or was initially difficult to learn but has become easier as time goes on (such as via advancing technology).

Fine cuisine is like this. Medicine is like this. Government is like this. Even video games are like this. Spacewar! was a game in the 1960s played using those closet-sized computers back then and required extensive programming knowledge, shared amongst a few people (predating Pong). When the full code was printed in a magazine, allowing (gasp!) anyone with a PDP-1 computer to be able to play it, some people were not happy (the creators were fine with it though). Such gamers then had an aneurysm when floppy disks came out, allowing people with no programming knowledge to play video games.

It's really just people's need to feel special. They went through the toils and troubles to reach where they are; they would naturally feel jealous of people who reached that spot without as much effort.

soft-n-fluffy wrote:
Thanks so much for writing this article, Carlo! I have seen so much misunderstanding and dislike towards Vocaloids on the ANN forums ("So they're basically just like Gorillaz" I feel like punching a puppy every time I see that comparison made).


How have you been describing the Vocaloids? Gorillaz are real people; they just portray themselves as animated. Their voices aren't computer-generated.

Running Wild wrote:
I hate Miku Hatsune and everything she stands for. It's bad enough that I'm a Toyota Corolla owner and now when I go to see my dealer, I see her disgusting mug on the wall.


They have pictures of her at every Toyota dealership? Heh, I must wonder what some of them thought when they received that stuff and were told to place them here or there. "Who is this 12-year-old kid, and why is her hair turquoise and longer than she is? How do those sleeves stay on her arms? Why is she labeled as 01? Those Japanese sure are weird."
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