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Fiction Alchemist



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:42 am Reply with quote
Great stuff. I love reading about Transformers. People like to choose sides for some ridiculous reason, picking Takara over Hasbro or Hasbro over Takara, but both were integral, and without one or the other, there would be no Transformers. Period. Both make some amazing toys, that's for sure. I'm a fan for life.

The idea of Beast Wars as a one of the worst dubs ever is laughable to me, though. Yes, Rattrap was mutilated in the Metals season because of some perverse love for Pokemon, and the dub overall could have been done better, certainly. However, it's not like it was cut up or had its story changed. Rather, it was made ridiculous in dialog the same way that the Transformers anime are dubbed into English. I absolutely don't approve, of course, but I think that "one of the worst dubs ever" needs to be reserved for things like Cardcaptors or One Piece.

No, I'm not accusing the author of saying these things. Honest.

The whole thing just makes me want to drag out my Transformers collection and relive some of my past. From the days of G1, where I never finished Abominus because I lacked Cutthroat, to the days when Beast Wars revived my interest in Transformers when I received my first one (it was Waspinator, still one of my favorite toys).
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pat_payne



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:57 am Reply with quote
That was a fascinating article. I never would have guessed that Transformers actually were descended (after a fashion) from GI Joe. Makes all those "Joe vs. Transformers" comics stories shine in a new light Razz.

Thanks also for the advice you gave Jadress. I'm glad to hear someone say to collect anime toys for enjoyment, not value. 'Cos, that's what really matters, innit? If you wanted to make a mint with an investment, buy stock. If you just want someting fun to enjoy, buy a Valk.
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The Xenos



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:34 am Reply with quote
Just to add a little bit to that Transformers bit, here's an interesting article on the origin of the name Optimus Prime and some other behind the scenes details of the origin of the mechanical species.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/​2006/​10/​12/​comic-​book-​urban-​legends-​revealed-​72/​

Denny O'Neil, the creator of Ra's Al Ghul and the Batman author who brought back a serious Batman, named the world famous Optimus Prime. He also worked on some of the back story. Plus, check out that awesome Bill Sienkiewicz cover.
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pat_payne



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:40 pm Reply with quote
The Xenos wrote:
Just to add a little bit to that Transformers bit, here's an interesting article on the origin of the name Optimus Prime and some other behind the scenes details of the origin of the mechanical species.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/​2006/​10/​12/​comic-​book-​urban-​legends-​revealed-​72/​

Denny O'Neil, the creator of Ra's Al Ghul and the Batman author who brought back a serious Batman, named the world famous Optimus Prime. He also worked on some of the back story. Plus, check out that awesome Bill Sienkiewicz cover.


Actually, given that a year or two earlier, Larry Hama basically created the GI Joe team out of whole cloth for Marvel and Hasbro, that's not at all surprising. Cool to find that I've got Smilin' Stan Lee ultimately to thank for most of my more cherished childhood nostalgia moments. Smile
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The Xenos



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:09 pm Reply with quote
Yeah. How awesome is Larry Hama? Ok, we can ignore that short stint on Batman in the 00s. Still awesome.

Also, on an unrelated note of Larry Hama awesomeness, check out this story from Chris Priest on race relations in the Marvel office. (Hama being Japanese American and Priest and others being African American.)
http://www.digital-priest.com/​comics/​adventures/​frames/​chips2.​htm
(You can scroll down to ' 3. enter the dragon'.)
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aluria



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:27 pm Reply with quote
Go Mainframe Entertainment! Beast Wars was a great series. I have seen the opening and ending of it in Japanese and boy, I couldn't stop laughing the first time, especially the opening. The english version is instrumental and fits the animation perfectly. The japanese version is this disco like song going "War war da da da DA stop it!". I have to admit, the song it catchy. Laughed how in true Japanese fashion, when the opening theme finished, all the maximals were posing.
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