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Faceman Subscriber Posts: 278 Location: Boston |
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Because it says he was an episode director. Which is why he wouldn't be listed as series director. |
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Nermal Posts: 205 Location: I was made to hit in America |
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errr...I see Yamamoto's name under Haruhi series director as well as episode director. I'm confused  |
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| Steve Berry Posts: 519 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA |
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| Frankly, I find the news a shame-- this is one of the only shows I've been enjoying this season. And I have some sad sense that it'll somehow be more "slapstick" and palatable, rather than dialogue-driven and quirky. But who knows-- hopefully, it'll be just like it is now. | ||||||
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Velius Posts: 16 Location: KS |
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Yes. Lucky Star ,so far, is miles away from Fumoffu and Azumanga. Both being two of the best comedies ever made. Hopefully the change will be for the better. |
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teh*darkness Posts: 588 |
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| Hm, there certainly are all kinds of opinions here... I wasn't very impressed with Fumoffu, even trying to set aside that it was FMP, and looking at it as a stand-alone series.
Either way, like was already mentioned, they can't change the source material. If you haven't liked it up to this point, it's not like they are going to change the manga so that the anime will be different. And I don't know what is so "unfunny" about it, but I find the pacing to be part of it's humor, and if that changes to a more slowed down pace, like Azu, I'll be very disappointed. |
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| PantsGoblin Encyclopedia Editor  Posts: 2969 Location: Agoura Hills, CA |
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Oh, cool. Maybe this show will actually start being funny now, glad they're listening to fans. This is probably very humiliating for Yamamoto though...
There's plenty of anime I find very funny that are dialogue driven. The execution in this show so far was just horrible though, and for comedy, execution is extremely important. Which is why this fell flat for me. I would like it to still rely on dialogue while actually being funny and witty as opposed to boring and uninteresting. |
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| Egan Loo Posts: 353 |
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It's confusing because there are several separate, but similar-sounding titles involved here: 監督 (Director): This is the person in overall creative charge of a work (Studio Ghibli's Hayao Miyazaki). シリーズディレクター (Series Director): This is a subset of the above title, but specific to serial works (Sailor Moon R's Kunihiko Ikuhara). シリーズ演出 (Series Production/Producing/Technical Director): This person is in charge of day-to-day production aspects, but cedes creative control to the director or producer. (Haruhi's Yutaka Yamamoto). 演出: In the specific context of a television series episode, this is the person in charge of one episode. This is the original Japanese credit when "episode director" is listed. It is roughly equivalent to "television director" in English. However, it can mean other roles in other contexts. ディレクター (Director): Japanese transliteration of the English term director. Depending on the context, it can mean any of the above titles. There are a whole list of other titles like animation director, executive director, and more, but covering all those is an entire essay itself. The Haruhi Encyclopedia entry now has "production" in Yamamoto's title to indicate he was taking orders from the overall director of the series, Tatsuya Ishihara. Last edited by Egan Loo on Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:53 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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JELEINEN Posts: 251 Location: Iowa |
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| Maybe they're just parodying Gainax. | ||||||
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| ZODDGUTS Posts: 288 |
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Hopefully it will. I had a few chuckles watching the episodes so far but not really laughing at the jokes.
Not even close buddy.
Exactly. Gotta say the first several minutes of the first episode was REALLY BAD. It just went on and on and on with nothing funny about it. |
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| Nermal Posts: 205 Location: I was made to hit in America |
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Wow...thanks so much for clearing that up. I am confused no more  |
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| Steve Berry Posts: 519 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA |
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Well, there's no accounting for taste. I think you're wrong, but then-- who knows, perhaps I'm the one with bad taste, since I like the show? I never particularly cared for Azu-- I know, it's like sacrilege-- and I found Lucky Star quite funny and enjoyable to watch. It was not piss my pants funny, but I enjoyed the random conversations that felt a great deal like real life conversations I've had-- for example, the first 5 minutes of ep 1. Here's an example of a piece of this show that isn't really played for heavy comic affect, and instead just sort of meanders along. People keep complaining that that section isn't funny-- but I don't think it's meant to be funny. Just quirky and playful. This show has a lot in common with the dialogue in stuff like Death Proof and Before Sunset-- and Tarantino and Linklater films in general. People who are expecting this show to drop your pants funny all the time are missing, IMO, the point of the show. What's engaging is watching the small details of life get played out in front of you, or the simple one liners at the end of a situation that reveal its irony. I can see people complaining that they can't relate to the dialogue, or the situations, but to go around complaining that it isn't funny enough or that the dialogue seems to be going no where seems to defeat the entire point of what the show's trying to accomplish. It's just that sort of subtle, situational humor, and rambling, insightful and yet "throwaway" dialogue that gives the show its charm. I dunno-- it's like going around complaining that mecha shows don't have enough well rounded characters or are too focused on fighting, or that shoujo shows are too emotive. I don't understand why people want to go around changing something that seemed to be working fine to me. Just my two cents. Now you can all tell me why I'm wrong. |
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| dormcat Encyclopedia Editor  Posts: 7337 Location: Hsinchu City, Taiwan, ROC |
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I was quite bothered to see Yamamoto's name was above Ishihara's when I entered "Series Director" for him, but I didn't want to create more new task titles back then... (just ask woelfie and you'll know how problematic they are). Now we've got several issues raised: 1. Should all enshutsu credits under the task "(Series) Director" be moved to "(Series) Production/Producing/Technical Director"? We've got to find out those first... 2. "Series Production/Producing/Technical Director" has to be raised to the primary staff and above "Episode Director," in the same manner that "Series Composition" should be above "Script / Screenplay." (On a side note: I'm not too fond of "scenario" that many Japanese credits use in place of script / screenplay. It's like using "roadshow" for premiere and "onanism" for masturbation -- while correct in some ways, they are rarely used in today's English) 3. I've seen movie credits with no kantoku at all but one enshutsu only. Should the person be credited simply as "Director" or "Production/Producing/Technical Director"? |
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| PantsGoblin Encyclopedia Editor Posts: 2969 Location: Agoura Hills, CA |
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Bad taste? No. Just different tastes.
I couldn't really understand what the show was trying to be actually. I assumed it was comedy but maybe I was completely off. Even if it was trying to be something else it wasn't working for me, I couldn't really find much at all that I enjoyed about it.
I never tell people that their wrong when it comes to opinions (ever), just that I don't agree with them. |
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| EmperorBrandon Encyclopedia Editor  Posts: 484 Location: Springfield, MO |
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| Just a side note here, but enshutsu also gets listed as "Unit Director" - shouldn't that title be placed among the primary staff roles since "Episode Director" already is?
I'm am curious what Kadokawa USA/Bandai will credit Yutaka Yamamoto as on the R1 release... |
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| Chumara Posts: 2 |
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| Oh god, Please don't let this guy ruin the series. Finally a comedy that I can appreciate that isn't retarded slapstick comedy with cliche jokes. I hope that it can stay as good as it's been by relying on its source material and not getting messed up by whatever this guy plans for it. I'd rather have a down to earth slice of life comedy than a hardcore in your face comedy such as excel saga (which was just the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen, in a bad way). I hope lucky star fares well with this change. | ||||||
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