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NEWS: Sci Fi to Air Ghost in the Shell's Solid State Society, Noein, Tokko


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JC90



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:59 am Reply with quote
Solid State Society and Noein? now I'm interested Cool
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:05 am Reply with quote
The FCC doesn't regulate cable; Nagisa was referring to the channel's own standards which have little or nothing to do with other channel's standards.

Opening up with Solid State Society will be a good Litmus test; if it doesn't do well, I expect Sci-Fi to drop anime again. Like many, I still have fond memories of the old Sci-Fi Saturday with Robot Carnival, Galaxy Express and many others that I have not had a chance to see since they stopped showing them those many years ago.
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Deltakiral



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:28 am Reply with quote
varmintx wrote:
The FCC doesn't regulate cable; Nagisa was referring to the channel's own standards which have little or nothing to do with other channel's standards.


Actually the FCC does regulate cable,
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Comedy Central shows completly unedited comedy. Even using George Carlin's favorite seven words.


Yeah but doesn't secret stash not start until 1 or 2 in the morning? This block is going to air at 11, there are different rules for so called prime time slots.

Also I can't believe there going to have Solid State Society a month before the DVD! Good job Sci-fi, your actually airing something I care about, and not just old wrestling federation.. Rolling Eyes
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RogueJedi86



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:41 am Reply with quote
Deltakiral wrote:
Also I can't believe there going to have Solid State Society a month before the DVD! Good job Sci-fi, your actually airing something I care about, and not just old wrestling federation.. Rolling Eyes


Off-topic, but I never understood why Sci-Fi aired wrestling. Unless it had giant robots or genetic mutants, it isn't very Sci-Fi. Seems more like Sci-Fi Channel is the "Sci-Fi/Horror/Crappy Modern Day B-Movies/etc." channel lately.

Oh well, I can't wait for Solid State Society. Since AS didn't announce anything new on the anime front at their Up Front(surprising, considering everyone thought AS would air the FMA movie sometime this year), I can see Sci-Fi actually taking a lead on anime for a while.
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MasterYeshua



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:45 am Reply with quote
I'm not sure about this selection. With this line-up Sci Fi definitely won't get Full Metal Alchemist/Naruto ratings. Ghost in the Shell SSS is going to be the biggest ratings grabber and if I'm not mistaken, that movie's series on AS wasn't spectaculary popular either. Macross has been repeated eternally on Encore Action. And Noein and Tokko are relatively unpopular. If they want to compete against Bleach level ratings, they will have to do better than this.
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MasterYeshua



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:59 am Reply with quote
MasterYeshua wrote:
I'm not sure about this selection. With this line-up Sci Fi definitely won't get Full Metal Alchemist/Naruto ratings. Ghost in the Shell SSS is going to be the biggest ratings grabber and if I'm not mistaken, that movie's series on AS wasn't spectaculary popular either. Macross has been repeated eternally on Encore Action. And Noein and Tokko are relatively unpopular. If they want to compete against Bleach level ratings, they will have to do better than this.


Allow me to elaborate. Starting off with SSS is a good move. However, the anime line-up lacks a heavy hitter. What they need is at least one series on the same level of popularity as AS heavy hitters. Something as popular as Full Metal Alchemist, Bleach, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop. The Sci Fi line-up lacks star power. Death Note or Code Geass would have been perfect. These series have built up hype online over the year. After you have your heavy hitter, back it up with something like Phantom Memory Kurau, Noien, or any Gundam series, and AS would have a serious fight on their hands.
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jel123



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:09 pm Reply with quote
Deltakiral wrote:
From the same page you quoted;
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Cable outlets, such as Cartoon Network's Adult Swim, are not governed by the FCC and generally do much less editing. How much is usually determined by the outlet's standards and practices department.
So much for the consistency of Wikipedia;-)

The FCC does regulate cable but not in the same way as broadcast, from the FCC site;
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How else can you explain what is shown on HBO and Cinemax, not to mention some of the err... more exotic Embarassed channels.

Anyway, the more anime the better. I'll be watching with or without edits as long as it doesn't take away from the story.

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varmintx



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:18 pm Reply with quote
Deltakiral wrote:
You can always expect someone here to nitpick. Smile Yes, the FCC regulates cable, but it doesn't regulate normal content, which is what we were talking about.
The FCC wrote:
Do the FCC's rules apply to cable and satellite programming? In the past, the FCC has enforced the indecency and profanity prohibitions only against conventional broadcast services, not against subscription programming services such as cable and satellite. However, the prohibition against obscene programming applies to subscription programming services at all times.
Nothing mentioned could be deemed "obscene."
The FCC wrote:
What makes material “obscene?” Obscene speech is not protected by the First Amendment and broadcasters are prohibited, by statute and regulation, from airing obscene programming at any time. According to the U.S. Supreme Court, to be obscene, material must meet a three-prong test: (1) an average person, applying contemporary community standards, must find that the material, as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest (i.e., material having a tendency to excite lustful thoughts); (2) the material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and (3) the material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. The Supreme Court has indicated that this test is designed to cover hard-core pornography.

Edit: Crap, I took too long. Smile
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Deltakiral



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:46 pm Reply with quote
MasterYeshua wrote:
Allow me to elaborate. Starting off with SSS is a good move. However, the anime line-up lacks a heavy hitter. What they need is at least one series on the same level of popularity as AS heavy hitters. Something as popular as Full Metal Alchemist, Bleach, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop. The Sci Fi line-up lacks star power. Death Note or Code Geass would have been perfect. These series have built up hype online over the year. After you have your heavy hitter, back it up with something like Phantom Memory Kurau, Noien, or any Gundam series, and AS would have a serious fight on their hands.


I don't see why Tokko and Noein aren't big hitters sure there not CB, Trigun, etc....but that's because they haven't had a chance to air yet. The respond to Noein has been pretty good, if not excellent (check out it's Median rating) and Tokko isn't as highly rated but it's still has a good rating. And honestly I hadn't heard of Tokko until it was announced by Manga so I am excited to see this series. So those are big hitters, unaired anime (in the US) and you support that with a vast amount of movies and OVA, I think it's a pretty good start. There's always the possibly that more shows might be added, it probably just depends on how well this test block does.
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jgreen



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:00 pm Reply with quote
Dargonxtc wrote:
RogueJedi86 wrote:
I still have faith in Sci-Fi Channel. I saw my first anime on there too. "Armitage 3: Poly-Matrix".


I always thought it was pronounced Armitage: Third Question Thats why I always use III. But I am probably wrong on that.


No, you're right, it is "Armitage III" and pronounced "Armitage: the Third," thirds being the name they give for the super-realistic new cyborgs that the film's plot revolves around. The original 4-ep OAV series was "Armitage III," the movie version (basically the same as the OAV with some footage added, some removed, and a new ending) was "Armitage III: Poly-Matrix," and the second movie (which I've owned for like 5 years and still haven't watched yet Shocked ) is "Armitage: Dual-Matrix" (without the "III").
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Randall Miyashiro



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:47 pm Reply with quote
Sci-fi is a fickle station in my opinion. They got all ramped up about Babylon 5, and made a pilot for a new series only to not only not make the series, but drop the reruns as well. SFC also canceled their popular Farscape series after already giving it a green light for a new season and dropped the reruns. Now they are playing pro-wrestling, Enterprise, and anime which might not last long.
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Dargonxtc



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:49 pm Reply with quote
Cool, because since I own both of them, I felt like I was really messed up!

jgreen wrote:
"Armitage III: Poly-Matrix," and the second movie (which I've owned for like 5 years and still haven't watched yet Shocked ) is "Armitage: Dual-Matrix" (without the "III").

My two cents on that.spoiler[Poly is more fulfilling and well rounded with better plotting, while Dual-Matrix is action oriented and succeeds on its technical merits more than anything.]

But thats just my opinion.

Deltakiral wrote:
I think it's a pretty good start. There's always the possibly that more shows might be added, it probably just depends on how well this test block does.

While at first I was like, why start only Manga, the more I look at it, and some of the more edgy shows they have, the more I think it is a good starting point. I mean if you are going to test boundries might as well do it right, right?

And as many have already pointed out, it is not written in stone that they will only stick with Manga and no one else. Like you said, it is a starting point.
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MasterYeshua



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:22 pm Reply with quote
Deltakiral wrote:
MasterYeshua wrote:
Allow me to elaborate. Starting off with SSS is a good move. However, the anime line-up lacks a heavy hitter. What they need is at least one series on the same level of popularity as AS heavy hitters. Something as popular as Full Metal Alchemist, Bleach, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop. The Sci Fi line-up lacks star power. Death Note or Code Geass would have been perfect. These series have built up hype online over the year. After you have your heavy hitter, back it up with something like Phantom Memory Kurau, Noien, or any Gundam series, and AS would have a serious fight on their hands.


I don't see why Toka and Noein aren't big hitters sure there not CB, Trigun, etc....but that's because they haven't had a chance to air yet. The respond to Noein has been pretty good, if not excellent (check out it's Median rating) and Tokko isn't as highly rated but it's still has a good rating. And honestly I hadn't heard of Tokko until it was announced by Manga so I am excited to see this series. So those are big hitters, unaired anime (in the US) and you support that with a vast amount of movies and OVA, I think it's a pretty good start. There's always the possibly that more shows might be added, it probably just depends on how well this test block does.


Yes but you're missing my point. To get this new block off to a good start they need a sure fire hit. Something with not only hype, but the approval of the online community. And what are the 3 most hyped, highly respected series right now? Death Note, Haruhi, and Code Geass. After you have the big attention grabber, then you can air Noein or Tokko as a supplement, not the main course. Toonami has Naruto, and AS has Bleach. Sci Fi doesn't have anything nearly comparable to Cartoon Network's big guns.
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penguintruth



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:40 pm Reply with quote
Wow - Solid State Society on Sci-Fi and not on AS, where Stand Alone Complex has been playing for years?

I wonder if AS feels cheated.
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Roy9076



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:15 pm Reply with quote
This is something to get people to watch! I'm not sure if Sci-Fi will comply with the FCC to show it unedited. I know for sure that Comedy Central went through a lot of stuff to get the "Secret Stash." I bet that it'll be edited. If not, then it will not only will it surprise me, but gives me hope that End of Evangelion and uncensored directors cut of Eva (depends if ADV are willing to do so) but a lot from Manga. Very Happy However, I can only wait. What a bang!
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