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NEWS: Seven Seas Cancels Nymphet Release in North America

No, I believe mt-i was pointing out that calling everyone who reads Kodomo No Jikan a potential child molester and worthy of derision is needlessly insulting and baseless. Way to miss the point.

ZaWarudo wrote:

No, I believe mt-i was pointing out that calling everyone who reads Kodomo No Jikan a potential child molester and worthy of derision is needlessly insulting and baseless. Way to miss the point.

Well I never called anyone a potential child molester and neither did anyone else in any of these threads so that sounds a bit like a persecution complex to me.

Zac wrote:

ZaWarudo wrote: No, I believe mt-i was pointing out that calling everyone who reads Kodomo No Jikan a potential child molester and worthy of derision is needlessly insulting and baseless. Way to miss the point. Well I never called anyone a potential child molester and neither did anyone else in any of these threads so that sounds a bit like a persecution complex to me.

Mohawk has equated posters with the people who kidnapped Maddy McCann several times.

I really hope you realize how asinine and dangerous that kind of thinking is. We should have freedom of the press unless 'the majority really disagrees with it'? How the heck would freedom of the press even work under those caveats? Short answer is: it wouldn't. 'Well, it's a democracy' has no relevance in this case. Democracy is for making decisions that unilaterally affect everyone (i.e. laws that everyone lives under); choosing to print a book or not is not such a case. Don't like it? Don't read it, and it doesn't affect you. Thinking that the 'majority' should be able to prevent printed material from being distributed is patently absurd, and you should be ashamed for even suggesting that.

What the hell? They cancelled the manga license, just because of its inappropriate and controversial context? How could they cancel a profitable product, regardless of whether it is inappropriate or not?

According to the Amazon sales rank chart , Nymphet's sales are higher than that of Seven Seas' other manga named Strawberry Panic.

Strawberry Panic's rank in Amazon sales is #73,359 while Nymphet ranks #19,422 in that same list. That's way much higher, if I must say

Hey Emmentalman!

Since you like to boost so loudly and proudly that you have read all of Nymphet. Does Rin ever get expelled from her school for her despicable behavior toward her teacher?

Is her parents ever called in by the headteacher to explain why Rin is acting that way?

Does the teacher even report her to his head teacher, or principle?

To those who lament that their right to feed their craving of fanciful dreams involving themselves and children, or to be an aroused witness to such occurances, has been somehow cruelly torn from them; You will just have to move to Japan where you will no doubt be able to bathe in the hot springs of what ever form of paedophilia fantasies you long for, leaving the moral majority to their fates you know so well will happen to them. I'm sure Japan will welcome you all with the openness they have historically shown to others like you in the past, which you so well deserve.

It's pointless to discuss this any further with people who haven't read the title in question.

To some extent youre right. However you do have to draw a line somewhere.

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saying that just because there is a larger number against something than for it does not always mean it's right. In the case of political parties certainly, but not in regards to what manga/books/movies and so on that are okay for people to watch.

that depends on what you mean by right. If youre talking morally, I think maybe it does. Morals are relative to the individual so the only way to really come up with a set of non subjective Morals is to look at what the majority of people think.

Bottom line is, in a democracy the majority rules. Now alot of times though the majority might dissagree with something but still think people have the right to say/write it. This is what freedom of speech and the press and all that are about. But if the majority dissagrees with something and feels it should not even be allowed to be printed then thats the way it is.

I believe if you read my post you will never find the word "should". Im simply explaining how things work. People like to make a big fuss over "its a free country, we can do w/e we want." Thats really not true though. There is tons of stuff that you infact cannot do/print. The point Im trying to make is that in a democracy if the majority thinks you should not be allowed to do something, it will be made so that you CANNOT do it. As it happens, alot of the time even though the majority disagrees with something they do still feel that people have the right to do so, therefore it remains legal.

Mohawk52 wrote:

Yes this is why parents, like myself, really don't want this manga released outside of Japan. We don't want the "truth" be known that all children are actually born nymphomaniacs constantly craving sex in any form. We want to keep this revelation to ourselves. I bet you can't wait to have children of your own just so you can experience this "truth" as well.

Quite a straw man you're pulling there. From asexual angels to sex-craved nymphomaniacs, there's some space where we all stand, at one point or another. Children included. Misrepresenting them as icons of innocence, shelving them off anything remotely sexual and forcing one's guilt-based set of morals upon them might not be the healthiest approach to sex-ed you can think of either (Yabuuchi Yuu, anyone?).

Mohawk52 wrote:

Is her parents ever called in by the headteacher to explain why Rin is acting that way?

Some spoilers there, but you ask for them, right. Aoki, who happens to be the headteacher of Rin's grade, does indeed attempt to get in touch with her parents. But her mother is deceased and her father left before she was even born. Aoki goes so far as to pay a visit to Rin's home in person, though, and confront the young man responsible for Rin's education, her cousin Reiji. Those who think Kodomo no jikan is light-hearted comedy all the way through may want to reconsider.

Mohawk52 wrote:

To those who lament that their right to feed their craving of fanciful dreams involving themselves and children, or to be an aroused witness to such occurances, has been somehow cruelly torn from them; You will just have to move to Japan where you will no doubt be able to bathe in the hot springs of what ever form of paedophilia fantasies you long for, leaving the moral majority to their fates you know so well will happen to them. I'm sure Japan will welcome you all with the openness they have historically shown to others like you in the past, which you so well deserve.

This is gratuitous and insulting, and all the more so as you obviously don't know anything about the material this vituperation is based on.

I may not support SSE's decision to cancel Kodomo no jikan, but I can't say it came as much of a surprise, nor do I consider their handling of the matter inappropriate. Although I don't usually read translated manga, I might have picked up this one if only to salute the publisher's boldness; but in the end I don't really care either way.

What does upset me, however, is seeing comments like the one above all over the place (from one ANN columnist not the least). Fans picking at some other fans' "special interests" in the name of good morals and portraying them as borderline sexual offenders for not disliking a genre that is becoming comparatively mainstream over in Japan. Way to go, people. Let's beat the crap out of one another before the media get a chance to meddle.

2) As graduate student in japanese language & culture (major) I happen to have lived for two years in Japan, and you Sir, you're lame flamer.

What's the matter? Don't recognise sarcasm when you see it? You obviously aren't a parent either, other wise you wouldn't have made such a stupid statement. A child knows nothing of the world, or it's environment straight from birth. They are like a blank tape, or unburned disc, so you see they are innocent until corrupted. I don't know what kind of parental guidance you had, or still have, but all children need to be taught and guided into adulthood. Much depends on the integrity, quality and direction of that teaching and guidance by those responsible for that child be it parent, or legal guardian and that also means what a child is allowed to experience by the examples of those parents and guardians. This is yet another reason why this story is so disgraceful.